Avoid this FAILED High-Speed Train in Denmark! – DSB IC4 Review

Dont worry Denmark, your railways are still much better than the ramshackle railways we have over here in Norway

Dane here! First off huge thanks for this look at our IC4 (or class MG units which is their technical classification), as someone who sadly hasn't yet had a chance to try them out, i personally really appreciate this video! Now on to some points: The whole IC4 debacle has been a huge scandal here, one that while not quite discussed as often anymore, is certainly still felt in the continued running of the IC3 and IR4 units (Not that i'm complaining 😉). As an aside, one of the main technical issues has been the brakes wearing down prematurely and initially having very poor performance, but it's certainly not been the only one.. The plastic bags in lieu of more traditional bins is in fact a choice made with the environment, as well as efficiency in mind. The bags are made from 100% recycled plastic, and you were gonna have some sort of bag in the bin anyway. Having small carrying bags like this also speeds up cleaning the train, as they just remove the outer most one instead of having to change the bag in each bin. Lastly the railway museum, absolutely worth a visit if you have the time in Odense! Aside from their fairly impressive collection of vintage and not so vintage rolling stock, they also have many smaller exhibits to gawk at, such as scale models of the Storebælt and Øresund Fixed Link rail tunnels! Again, thanks for the great vid! Hope to see more like it from you in the future! EDIT: Misremembered a fact about the trash bags, they're in fact not bio-degradable, just made from recycled plastic.

As someone who travelled a lot by train in the 80's, there is nothing that will ever come close to beating DSB's IC5 and Silver Arrow units. Yes, they were much slower, but the comfort onboard was just amazing. Both of these trains had conference rooms for business travellers, as well as an actual onboard bistro. I especially loved the conference area on the Silver Arrow units, because it had that 60's gentlemen's club vibe with wooden panels, brown leather chairs, oversized ash trays for cigars etc. They tried this concept on the IC3 in the early 90's, but it was sadly dropped rather quickly.

DSB is the national railway in Denmark, not the nationalised. It has never been private. It has during the years taken over som smaller local private companies, but the main route you travel has always been serviced by DSB.

I really prefer the IC3 over the IC4, the IC3's do have a proper 1st Class in a 2-1 configuration. The seats are not very different from standard class. I think that is something Danish or so. In 2018 i spent 4 hours and 45 minutes on a IC3-train from Copenhagen to Hamburg (via the ferry you mentioned) and that was really amazing :D

As a Dane this is sad to know we have such a disaster. You can call it Tramline instead of Letbane for the English viewers lol, the automatic voice says it all the time for each station. I am very depended on this since I live at the very end of the line. The plastic trashbags are 100% recycled material, they generally take up much less space, and it says right on the bag that they would like you to take it with you and throw it out somewhere else if used. Idk what other solution you had in mind, the trash is gonna be dropped in a plastic bag regardless.

6:55 on the bag it says “The plastic bag is made of 100% reused plastic” But Its typically made this ways so if a person gets sick under the ride they don’t have to use a bin!

9 years ago, while i was living in Denmark, they were still debating the issue of IC trains and how long it was taking from AnsaldoBreda to fulfill the delivery. Not to mention the myriad of problems they were facing. One famously stopped in the middle of Storebæltsbroen (The Great Belt Bridge), can't remember if it was in the tunnel, the bridge itself or the island, but thing is, it broke down, during the summer I think, with overflown toilets and hours before they were able to move them. Oh, and a journalist from one of the leading news in Denmark happened to travel on the same train, and imagine the story fresh from the source itself. And to top it off, Berlusconi gifted to Gaddafi (yes, that Berlusconi of Italy and Gaddafi o Libya), one of the IC4 train sets that were destined for DSB, further adding to the delays. Go figure it.

I travelled on one of those trains on that route 4 years ago and there were no problems. In fact, at the time I thought it looked luxurious. Then again, it would do compared to the Irish Enterprise that runs between Belfast and Dublin and which I sometimes use - and find fairly cramped in standard class.

Everything i wanted to say about this disastrous spaghetti train has already been mentioned, so i just wanna compliment your pronunciation of the Danish city names, for an English speaker, you are doing remarkebly well

@0.50 Normally you are quite accurate in your narrative content, but I have to advise you Aarhus may be located in the part of Denmark known as Jylland (Jutland) as you state, but Jylland is not an island - it is a peninsula.

I am watching videos about trains on a sunday at 11am and I am somehow enjoying it. Nice videos bro!

I have never seen a train in denmark in such poor maintenance state! So far, I have only used the IC3 (DSB MF) the few times I have been to Denmark or I have used them on my way through Schleswig-Holstein (heading south towards Hamburg). I always say, the IC3 is the best an most comfortable diesel powered train I have encountered so far! It is a joy to ride. Sadly, I also have heard about all the trouble the DSB had with the IC4... But things are about to change as the electrification is finally on its way. New Vectron locomotives were bought and I have heard, DSB is about to use german IC-cars pulled by Vectrons from next year on on some routes. This will be interesting! :) So, thank you for this entertaining video!

Before watching it, I just wanna put in my own experience with it, riding it a few times shortly after it actually came in service. The very first ride I sat by the entrance, close to the toilets. Shortly after a lady had gone into the toilet and sat down, the door decided to open on its own. Rather unfortunate. By the time I had to leave, I got water on my head, probably from a leaking condense tube or something. I haven't ridden in them in essentially forever, but judging by the title just your intro, it seems not a lot has changed. A quick edit as I went along. Never trust the digital screens. The DSB 1 marking on the wall was correct. Bit of a shame though, since the price difference between standard and DSB 1 is ridiculous.

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"sit here and watch my own country fall apart" That's why I subscribe to you mate!

The Railway Museum in Odense is one of my favourite museums in Denmark, definitely recommend it. As for the diesel ICE4 was the most uncomfortable train I ever took. The jitters from the gearbox and engine vibrations made me wished I got off after 15min.

Wonderful videos. Thank you! (I am from Denmark so the IC3 and IC4 videos are of extra special interest to me).🙂 Ha-ha: a small thing. Jutland is actually the only part of Denmark that is NOT and island (as you called it in the beginning) as it is bordering the rest of Europe in Northern Germany as you experienced when driving from Hamburg to Aarhus. So it is actually a peninsula.❤️ This was a brilliant video. I also liked The one on the IC3 where you also mention this disaster of the IC4 as the Italian contractor who won the bid - due to EU lunacy - never found a way to live Up to the high standards for safety om Danish railways, where all trains and tracks are monitored live by both computer and people, and as a train run a red signal or is speeding on low speed sections, it is either slowed down Aor brought to a complete halt remotely. The same goes for the automatic collision detection where trains registered by the computer to be on collision course on the same (or inersecting or joining tracks), will be brought to immediate halt remotely. The Italians simply couldn't meet the zero tolerance for failure during massive testing and has therefore been delayed for decades to the point where this has actually cost sitting governments reelection. They have been running around on tracks in Denmark empty (well with a locomotive operator og course and some IT and testing engineers, of course), and the time and again presented with either major or minor bugs, but as the safety margin in Denmark is ZERO, that did NOT fly, and in the end they never went in regukar circulation as the extreme high speed train to replace the IC3. Driving in the IC3 one would regularly see one of those IC4 trains run empty like ghost trains side by side with your own train. Now a few of them have been put in on some routes but a much lower speed where the lousy Italian merch meets the Danish standards. The dream was that they would make the Journey Aarhus-Copenhagen in just under 2 hrs, but that required them to run 225 km/h and that will NEVER happen.

I haven't travelled in Denmark for some years now, it was nice to see how it looks. Parts of my extended family still live there.

I love the video, it explains a lot of questions I had about these trains, like the existence of the lifts lol but goddamn, I had to double-check you're from the UK and not Norway or Sweden, because your pronunciation really sounds like it! not that it's bad in any way, just found it fascinating lol thank you for the video!