5 Mistakes Beginner Songwriters Should Avoid

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Published 2024-04-19
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00:00 Introduction
01:21 Mistake #1 - Pronouns
06:02 Mistake #2 - Chords
11:16 Mistake #3 - Melody
14:35 Mistake #4 - Output
17:03 Mistake #5 -

All Comments (21)
  • @officialWWM
    Iā€™m not sure who first said it but Iā€™ve never forgotten this. ā€œGreat songs arenā€™t written, they are re writtenā€. This has helped me so much.
  • Something Iā€™ve come to realise is that I can reuse my old ideas in new songs, it doesnā€™t have to be 100% original every time. I mean fleetwood Mac reused the baseline in the chain, and it makes that song what it is.
  • @LG-Musique
    Thank you! Iā€™m writing a song right now and just realised I use ā€œyouā€ for two different people in the verse and chorus šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø
  • @PeterSykesMusic
    Also more first lines from Ed ā€œwhen I was six years old I broke my legā€, ā€œI took an arrow to the heartā€, ā€œit hit like a trainā€. Great stuff Keppie.
  • @MrPotatoMind
    Songwriting tip: channel your subconscious, there are no rules. Technique and meaning are overrated. Make pretty sounds with syllables instead of trying to "say" something.
  • I would add that if youā€™re starting the song on the relative minor, it is a useful technique to employ a pre-chorus which provides a greater ā€œliftā€ to the tonic major chord.
  • @kensnzbr4137
    Great video! I just wanted to make a comment on point number 2. You called it a mistake to start your sections on the same chord. I wouldn't call it a mistake cause it's a matter of taste and what you might feel that the song needs. There are great songs that use the same chord progression throughout the whole song and there's a clear distinction between sections because good songs and good arrangements don't only rely on chord progressions to create a journey.
  • @nedim_guitar
    Switching to "you" from "he/she" could work, if the song changes more dramatically for that part (say, a rock song that goes pretty quiet) and then moves back to "he/she". It COULD work even in the example, though it's not optimal. The tonic chord and the same chord starting every section sounds very dull. Good thing I'm not using it. Anyway, very helpful video!
  • Iā€™ve been writing for 20 years, just decided I was going to when I was around 14. Iā€™ve never thought to be analytical about how the process works. This was interesting, and thankfully the only rule I STILL break is the lyrical one. After my years of doing it Iā€™ve realized one simple thing: EVERY MOMENT OF THE SONG HAS TO BE INTERESTING TO YOU AND THE AUDIENCEā€¦IT NEEDS TO CONSTANTLY BE POPPING AND MOVING. Music is MOVEMENT šŸ˜Š
  • @WWS322
    Ray Davies is my favorite song writer. He said he teaches songwriting. But it may only be in England. He should have a YouTube channel, I bet it'd be popular. He is very prolific. I just got a book of Irish folk songs and it looks pretty easy for me and it is about my bedtime and I'll obsess over it all night.
  • I loved this. It helped me a lot. I often hit the wall with a song idea because I go from the beginning. I find that if I start with a cool idea and write it as a bridge, whether melodically or lyrically, I can build out from it. Itā€™s just a recent thing that Iā€™ve done, but it works great!
  • @kaphonie
    Now I wanna go back to the songs I released and see if I did these mistakes in my own songs xD
  • I appreciate these songwriting nuggets. I especially like how you focus and reference what the listener needs and wants. Kudos
  • @misberave
    Once again Soo good! Discovered your videos a week ago and it boosted my knowledge to a level i wanted it to be since like 2 years and never could archieve it. Im finally at a point where i can actually say i write songs and not just mess around with random chords in a Key and now i know how to built and release tention
  • @scobrado
    Mistake #4 is golden. Good one. Mistake #2 can be not just black and white. Start in third person then rope in the listener with second person. Best to do once in one direction to shift the perspective. 19:00 sums up the heart and soul of refrain-based writing. Good info.
  • @gerrithdutoit835
    Again an amazing tutorial! I take notes and transfer it to a worksheet that remains by my side when I get stuck. Thank you so much for this channel.
  • @suefauziyah
    Helpful tips. #4 and 5 spoke to me the most. Both are tips Iā€™ve heard before, especially on this channel, but always helpful to be reminded againā€¦ and again. Thank you!
  • @angerock49
    Thank you for the tips specifically the one about landing always on the beat, hadn't thought of that!
  • @jaygillotti610
    All good suggestions. I would add song form. I think it is really important for beginners to be well grounded in song form and then experiment. Most pop is Verse-Chorus-Bridge, maybe with a pre-chorus. However, it's great to try writing an AABA, or even 12-bar blues. Or, try different variations on the V-C-B (does your song really need a bridge?). Also great to be able to hear all your favorite songs and understand what form is being used.