VRR Flicker On OLEDs Is A Real Problem

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Published 2024-04-26
Though their premium picture quality, high-end feature set, and of course, instantaneous response times are so enticing as is the on-the-box guarantee that it all works as its supposed to… They still flicker. In this video, we’re investigating the issue of VRR flicker on monitors, with a focus on OLEDs. We’ll look at the causes, the effects, and what trade-offs you’ll have to make to try and fix the flick!

Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:47 VRR Flicker Causes
01:54 Effects
02:37 VESA standards
04:17 Capturing Flicker (Our Test)
07:59 Trade Off Solutions
10:24 Conclusion

For more details about our testing process, check out our article:
www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/research/vrr-flicker

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All Comments (21)
  • These guys are so far ahead of other media outlets... Also, Abby is doing a great job as the host of the R&D channel.
  • @kennibal666
    RTings is the only media outlet I trust when it comes to this type of review.
  • @Quick_Sa_Fugim
    This is the kind of work that sets standards. You, people at Rtings, are our heros without the capes. Cheers.
  • @luke100ster
    This drove me nuts in Alan Wake 2 on PC on an LG C2. I'm so glad someone finally made a video on this.
  • @warmonked
    seriously, you guys are doing the lord's work.
  • Rtings is the only type of mainstream media outlet I can trust nowadays not just because of their good quality reviews but because of the fact that THEY LISTEN. They listen to feedback, good or bad AND IMPROVE. They don't think they're perfect because nobody is, and because of that, they have my respect and trust. Thanks for this video and hope you guys continue improving!
  • @blubbi4ever
    I'm truly grateful that you've brought attention to this issue because, in my view, it's often overlooked. I've encountered this problem myself with certain VA panels in the past. Since then, I've switched to IPS and haven't experienced it again. Additionally, I believe that brightness flickering is most noticeable when examining the frame time graph. Even simple actions like opening the inventory in WoW caused brightness flickering for me, despite maintaining a steady 60 FPS throughout.
  • @GDICZ
    Please add this flicker test also to TV reviews. And also test TVs with the new methodology of pixel response times. Many thanks!
  • @GeordiLaForgery
    Fascinating Abby & co, I like the casual way y'all just improve the VESA test!
  • I recently got an OLED monitor and flickering with VRR on was the first thing I noticed. I was shocked that it was an issue that hadn’t shown up in my prior research - searching for it specifically on forums was the only way to get info about it. Thank you for bringing more attention to this!
  • So glad RTngs is finally addressing this issue. I learned about it long ago, when the LG CX first came out and 4k@120Hz was the hot new shit on the 3090. VRR flicker was an ongoing issue that LG tried to combat with various firmware updates, and after almost a year of back and forth they finally admitted it was a hardware problem with how the displays physically handle modulation at refesh rates below 120hz or 60hz. Basically, they tested the displays at those refresh rate, but not at 90 or 100hz which is were the issue is most widespread especially in dark scenes. The sad part is, that was basically 4 years ago now -- and the issue seems to still existing on both LG's and Samsung's latest and greatest OLEDs and QD-OLEDs. A hardware fix was supposed to be the solution, but it seems that almost 4 years of updates, and there's been no fix in sight. For me, the issues mostly became less of a concern with the 4090 as that can play most games locked at 120FPS, so you don't run into the issue in nearly as many games.
  • @Kryptic1046
    This is such an annoying issue with some displays and I'm glad you guys are calling it out. I have two main panels I play games on, one of them hooked to an AMD card with Freesync and the other with an Nvidia card using Gsync. The Freesync on the panel with the AMD card (Samsung Q70R) is near-flawless while the panel using Gsync with the Nvidia card (TCLR648) has that annoying VRR flicker in some games where you can clearly tell the VRR is engaging. I feel like if a monitor is going to advertise VRR, it ought to be an actual decent implementation of it. Nobody wants to sit there watching the screen constantly flicker in brightness while playing a game.
  • @EmoEmu
    This woman is the hero we needed.
  • @HazewinDog
    Since usually people only comment when the opposite is the case, I just wanted to say that you're really good at this presenting thing!
  • @rockyyz89
    U guys r the best, no 1 source for peripheral testing
  • @TechGamesAU
    THANK YOU for investigating this. It’s a HUGE ISSUE that hardly anyone talks about! I finished Alan Wake 2 on my LG C2 and the flicker absolutely ruined the experience.
  • @sampsalol
    This is such an important topic, thank you for making this video since this needs more attention.
  • @rokha6482
    YOU literally read my mind, I had issue with flicker on my screen and was starting to look for info on how to fight it and Boom a video from Rtings detailing exactly my issue ! Thanks for your work
  • @exscape
    Thank you soooo much for this! VRR flicker drives me crazy on my LG C1, leading me to rarely use VRR in the games that would benefit from it most. Having actual, objective data not only showing that the problem exists (which many deny), but having the ability to actually compare different monitors in this regard is incredibly helpful!
  • @sahmuss1164
    I REALLY wish I found this channel before purchasing my monitor