This Did Not Go Well ...

"The software works but the installer does not" is a tale old as the Wine itself. For some reason the issue has been ALWAYS the installers as far as I can remember with bare Wine. Valve has been rather smart how they have approached this issue: Steam client itself is the installer which removes the biggest obstacle.

It would be really nice if the companies just offered a flatpack. It could still communicate with the license servers.

The fact that we're already so close to achieving mainstream programs on linux (even if the installers crash) gives me hope that in just about a year developers will have found a way to make it run perfectly, and once that's out of the way, official ways will follow. With the fast rate at which Linux is growing and improving, it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when, and I bet on it being very soon.

Porting Windows apps is not the solution. The real solution is to make better alternatives that make people and businesses WANT to take the leap. Adobe is already doing us a favor by being a pile of garbage software that people don't want to use anymore.

using windows makes me feel dirty

The abrupt "wherever you a-" got me 😂

Video illustrates the main reason we will probably never see mainstream desktop software fully supporting linux. It's not about installation, it's about tech support. I worked for two companies that released linux versions of their Windows/Mac desktop software. The linux version immediately became 90% of the tech support calls! There are too many OS level inconsistencies for the average desktop user, who just want to run desktop software first, and only need an OS installed for that to happen. In contrast, most linux users/enthusiasts run the OS/server side software first , with desktop software as a secondary consideration.

I wonder how many people are stuck on windows because of that one bit of software that they cannot live without and that doesn't have an alternative.

0:36 I find it quite funny/tragic how almost everyone ignores Codeweaver's Crossover, as they are the actual main wine developers.

Having to Google everything to figure out how to do anything is very annoying and I can’t do everything. I still try though and keep learning.

Maybe it's time for a LSW - Linux Subsystem for Windows Or virt-manager a Windows VM.

Far as I am aware, some of these apps use UWP API and WINE doesn't support it yet.

I think we need to have a community for wine scripts. That way, everyone can pool in the solutions to make it work. BTW, there is also DARLING, which aims to make macos softwares work like wine!

We don't need "hacked fix", we need more software like Blender which will be a better alternative to the Windows-only software and I think Microsoft and Adobe are on the case already by making their offerings bloated with AI

I imagine many people have written this already, but microsoft really has no reason to support office on linux. In fact, I suspect that they sabotage it, so that you need windows to properly run their software.

i think its kinda weird that microsoft refuses to let you download office, just because you are on a linux machine. its like they dont want you to use there software. same goes for many other programms as well. like, why hinder me to download the exe? maybe i want to download it with this machine, and copy the exe to another pc or something. it makes no sence imho.

When people will stop treat any Linux distro as Windows they will get the point. Linux is not Windows, it's different and need completely different aproach.

It should be possible for wine/bottles devs to debug the wine runtime and figure out what the installer is trying go call, isolate it and fix it

When I first moved to Linux, I was really into this "use all my previous proprietary Win/macOS apps on Linux via Wine" mindset, but even though I had great success in doing so, I started feeling weird about it, like I was missing the point of Linux and its offerings. So I eventually dropped them all and forced myself to learn to live with software natively supported by Linux, both FOSS and proprietary and I'm very happy I did.

2:29 Up till 69% 😅 hahaha Microsoft way of trolling