Yajnadevam's Indus script decipherment hosted by Steve Bonta

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Published 2024-02-10
Yajnadevam presents his Indus script decipherment and AMA

00:00 Opening
01:35 Brief history of the Indus valley
08:42 Indus script timeline
19:40 The Indus script problem
22:50 Decipherment using cryptanalysis
31:49 Information Theory: Is every script decipherable?
33:49 Unicity distance and uniquely provable solution
37:00 Can I decipher a script as ANY language? (Phonotactics)
39:52 Is it an actual script? Which kind? Which language?
47:30 Direction of writing
49:34 Different signs vs variants of the same sign
53:58 Allographs and distinct signs
55:25 Numeric signs vs numbers
57:17 Deciphering signs one by one
1:00:58 What happens if a sign is incorrectly deciphered?
1:02:20 Why is the only correct decipherment?
1:05:39 Reconstructed sign names
1:06:05 Whole signs vs composite signs
1:08:27 Brahmi is standardized Indus script
1:09:09 Example inscriptions
1:10:48 Yajur Veda
1:11:40 Rig veda
1:13:02 Common Objections
1:14:10 IA Arrived in 1500 BCE?
1:19:54 Continuity of iconography
1:22:10 Horse and chariot objection
1:22:56 Multiple allographs per symbol
1:23:54 Genetics
1:28:12 IVC Symbols in the Steppes?
1:30:46 Other decipherments
1:32:39 Other fallacies
1:36:03 Steve's comments
1:44:45 Demo
1:58:05 Q&A
All Comments (21)
  • @laxmivasudevan7576
    Yagnadevam . There is a prize money for the person deciphering Indus script . I sincerely wish you get that prize and money .
  • @laxmivasudevan7576
    Indus script is Early Brahmi script which later became Brahmi from which later Sanskrit and Tamil evolved is what I understood from the talk . Tamil is a natural language , simple , very few consonants , most suitable to ordinary people while Sanskrit was developed by scholars to make this language rich in alphabets and words with well developed Grammar by Panini. As yagnadevam states Panini came later , classic Sanskrit came later .
  • @cryptonash16
    Another thing I would like to check is if we can use this methodology to prove if Aramaic came from Middle East or it came from the Iranian Plateu/BMAC/Indus.
  • @anuradham8435
    21:28 the picture is story of hunter (lubdhaka) which is read out during mahashivratri in many areas of india
  • @lewisrobinson3380
    Is there a list somewhere of proposed deciphered symbols? I’d love to cross compare the symbols with various other scripts.
  • @vv6533
    great talk. Do you know why Ashish is inactive on twitter these days? Is he working on a paper or something?
  • @Lerner7
    19:39 I am from Rajasthan and in my village we have similar human paintings (exactly the same)culture it is called Maya
  • @laxmivasudevan7576
    Neeraj Rai Molecular geneticist and one of the authors on the paper “ Cell “ had made it clear that Steppe gene has maximum diversity in Indian population compared to that of Europe implying that it had originated many generations earlier in India than in Europe . Genetic studies also do not support AIT / AMT
  • @user-ny4yg5cs6d
    I commiserate with you on the difficulty in having these theses peer-reviewed. The methodology appears sound; perhaps the only proof can come from discovery of further artefacts...
  • @subramaniyamm2288
    I am not Archeological expert, old tamil era literature deacribed how the city will be looked. How people do the day today activity in the city. Even they mentioned desert in so many places in the sangam literature. At present TN, there is no nearby desert. Then how the people described about desert. Also tiger and man sitting on the tree seal;. The tree may be Pterocarpus marsupium, its name is vengai (yellow and black flower). So people use to call tiger and that tree as Vengai ( வேங்கை). Even that tree woods found in indus valley. Presently it not exist due to 4.2 kiloyear event.
  • @cryptonash16
    Nice, can you use your algo to track patterns between Avestan, Vedic, Puranas, Yazata? From my research, it seems like battle of the 10 kings is at around 600BCE/500BCE an it refers to the invasion of Darius as Druhyus and his Achaeminids empire along with his mercenary tribes such as the Sakas etc. The battle of the 10 kings clearly mention these tribe names, and the Scythian confederation does not exist before 900 BCE. If you study Persian history, after Cyrus (Kurush) from the Aryan Kamboja tribe expansion to the Indus, he setup a Satrapy near Indus whereby the later Darius the 1st's father Hystaspes ( Vishtaspa in the Gathas) controlled a Satrapy near Indus, and it seems that his dad studied from the magis in India. Soon after that we see a boom in Zoroastrianism, before that in Cyrus time we never see any mention about Zoroastrianism. Hence it seems like the Zoroastrianism concept, formulated in the Kuru Kingdom and Haryana was Airyanem Vaejah, Sarasvathi As Haraxvaiti and Sapta sindhu as Hepthahindu.. So they brought the memory along with them to BMAC, settled there for a while and moved into the Iranian Plateu. @yajnadevam you may refer this to your colleague as well.
  • @Joseph-yu4lx
    Indus civilisation people migrated from Sindhus region for some valid reasons. They consisted mainly of traders who had stationed there to trade conveniently with the western countries like Sumeria. Wherever they settled they always provided themselves with comfortable residence facilities. Originally they were from ancient Tamilnadu. There were other supporters and dependants and other technicians.