Cheating in Competitive TF2 Leagues

On an unrelated note, we have just started a 100 player Medieval server. I'm planning on doing a quick video talking about how well it goes. If you want to join the 50v50 swordfighting, join the Discord at: discord.gg/SolarLight

Now I don't have to blame myself for being a bad spy and just assume everyone else is cheating

Back on etf2l we had a really stupid strat. Run a heavy and spy disguised as friendly heavy, then while the other team is typing about us breaking the rules you just win the push 😂

This video has taught so many people how to cheat in a pseudo-legitimate way. On one hand, that'll hopefully result in fixes, on the other hand the game is gonna be wacky as all hell for those who choose to abuse it

Fun fact: At 1:19 in the list of "cheaters" banned by the Anti-Cheat team there is at least one non-cheating player. That player is the guy in last place - fidus. He got banned circa a month ago for WH and as proof there is a SINGLE clip that could be summarised as: The map is KOTH Viaduct. There are 4 people in the clip, our "cheater" (pyro), his medic and heavy and the accuser (enemy spy). Spy is on top of the sniper cliff with the remaining three bellow it. They have no idea spy is there. Pyro is looking slightly up checking the ridge of the cliff, he sees nothing so he turns around to spycheck. There is noone behind him so he turns back to see the accuser disguised as a teammate jumping from the cliff towards our pyro (not to the health pack, rather directly at pyro's head while turning mid air). As anyone would do he presses M1, then he panic airblasts the spy into his own medic. The medic gets stabbed and spy runs away. End of the clip. One more note, the clip itself was recorded while inspecting the replay and we can hear audio of poeple inspecting it, we havetwo guys there the accuser and the Anti-Cheat team member. And I ALMOST feel sorry for the poor guy, cause the accuser is screaming into his ear that this is "ONE HUNDRED % PROOF THAT PYRO HAS WH! THERE IS NO WAY HE KNEW I WAS THERE! HOW DID HE KNOW IT WAS ME! HE HAS WALLS!" (you know the classic lines). As I said I almost felt bad for the admin. But like c'mon you're supposed to be good at spotting cheaters. First there was nothing wrong with the clip and second a single clip like this is nowhere near enough evidence to ban someone. Anyways thanks for reading all of this. I'm not trying to say that all banned people are innocent, just that banned does not mean 100% guilty. After all the ETF2L admins are just normal people like us. And everyone makes mistakes.

i remember back in, like, the early 2010s there was this one guy on tftv/ugc who was absolutely 1000% convinced one of the best snipers in highlander was cheating. like constantly accused them of it with increasingly shoddy reasoning. this eventually expanded to him accusing so many snipers of cheating that people felt bad for the people that weren't accused lol

did not expect to see my crosshair get clowned at 11:33, ITS GOOD OKAY

Ive talked to quite a few competitive players who ended up closet cheating, usually its because of this one major reason, and i quote one of them : "after a certain point you become so good that you barely see any improvements anymore which really demotivated me because i thought i was never gonna get better" Its basically like muscle growth when you start going to the gym or doing sports, first year or two you see alot of progress but as you continue to improve you start seeing it less and less, which to someone who enjoyed seeing rapid improvement can be mentally draining, so they tend to go to a more "darker" route, whether in tf2 with cheating or steroids in the gym. this does not however excuse cheating in any shape or form

Every day third party comp gets mentioned is a good day

Wow, this takes me back. I used to be a bug hunter on TF2 near to the game's launch because I had experience modding source engine games from CS:S. I found a lot of these issues and pointed them out to Valve hoping they would update either the game or their engine, under the assumption that they would still make competitive games in Source, and god forbid they be inherited into Source 2. Instead, I equipped a bunch of cheaters with easily executed and unbannable cheats. :( Excellent deep dive though! Great video. :)

Does feel crazy that even the highly skilled players would go down that road of cheating that I’m not surprised that some people get accused of hacking because of this

An Uncle Dane and SolarLight video in the same day, must be Christmas

I just wanna say, thank you for the amazing subtitles! I love how there are different words in bold, italic and in different colors. Makes the video feel like you put even more effort into it.

Im sorry but this 13:14 part of the video had me dying. My humour is so broken for laughing at the spy radiating fart shockwaves with the fart sound effect

i'm gonna be honest, I think Phlog cancelling should count as tech rather than cheating. I know it's not a popular sentiment since everyone kinda hates the phlog but in a competitive environment I think it's a cool edge to a weapon that'd only really come out in hyper aggressive situations.

8:03 oh my god this got a great laugh out of me great video as always! your editing has only gotten better and better

6:53 This can also be done without the exploit by using an infinitely looping taunt.

10:14 honestly though, this is just geometry. What if you crouch peek an angle? This one seems really easy to do accidentally. Good to see RGL is smart enough to realize this.

I always suspected that people modified the decloak sound, but never bothered to look it up if it was possible. Some people do a sudden 180 even if you decloak a mile away from them, during a chaotic team battle, and some snap a 180 as you're approaching them.

Kind of related, but I honestly have developed such huge trust issues with gaming now when it comes to cheating. Over the past 5 years, a solid 30-40 % of my friends ended up cheating in some way in games whether its through clients, ghosting, etc. I don’t understand it at all and I hate it.