Mother Goes to Jail for Son's Shooting

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"I'm an alcoholic with anger issues and I'm hallucinating." "okay, here's a gun."

When she says she "never heard her son request a therapist" she's probably telling the truth. He said it; she didn't hear it, because she didn't listen nor did she want to listen.

When she was on the stand and said that she wouldn't have done anything different. That sealed her fait. My nephew is one of the students killed that day. I hope she rots in prison. She has no remorse about the shooting. She only has remorse that she got caught or has been inconvenienced by this whole incident.

When Ethan was arrested and charged, instead of going to the police station to support their son and face what he did, the parents went on the run. They knew they were guilty before the case ever went to trial.

"I wish my son was into normal things" buys him gun The lock combination was '0000' I'm about to scream

The "I would not have done anything different" was probably the nail in the coffin

This was the right call here, in THIS specific case. The parents ignored his warning signs, his calls for help, bought for him the pistol that he could not have gotten himself (if he had to get it illegally, may have been caught trying), left the pistol unsecured for him and refused to take him out of school when the school said to because they had "other things" to do. This was depraved indifference toward their child and the consequences of that, especially with him matching so many of the mass public murderer profiles highlighted in so many new stories. That's not precedent for ALL cases, just this one and any others like it on a case by case basis.

Being from Oregon, I have met people who knew the family of Kip Kinkle who committed a mass shooting at Thurston High School. His parents did try to get him help and were unable to. Kip killed his parents before committing murder at his school. The Crumbley’s were not the same. They actively sought to provide their son with a gun. They are responsible for their son’s actions that day.

“Can you at least reply” is a text a child should NEVER have to send their parent

The voices won't stop. Please help. If EVER there was a cry for help, this is literally it.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but you begin to feel bad for the shooter — begging for help until you broke, and now your parents are each on trial, saying that you breaking was inevitable and there was absolutely no way they could have helped you

She wasn't convicted for "bad parenting" i.e. that's what could have caused him mental duress to the point he wanted to commit violence... she was convicted because she enabled, or almost basically aided and abetted him in this act. She GAVE him the gun with which he performed the shooting. She DIDN'T pull him from school when he threatened violence in his drawings and literally wrote "please help" mere hours before he committed the crime. She DIDN'T tell him to stop looking for ammunition, just to "not get caught" while doing so. I mean... helloooo???

I think this case is unique because not only did the parents not STOP their kid, they bascially encouraged him by buying him a gun, knowing he was making threats in school.

If politicians want to increasingly push "parental rights", as in parental control over their children and their education (or other areas of their lives), then they also have to accept that this makes parents increasingly liable for the actions of their children.

My aunt is retired now, but she spent her career as a school counselor. In 1998 her best friend Faith Kinkel was murdered by her son, along with her husband. Kip then proceeded to his school where he shot up a bunch more people. 2 more died. She had to go to work and help kids deal with the event shat shoe could hardly deal with herself. She doesn't talk about it much. But she is interviewed in the documentary they made about this shooting. Remember when school shootings were so rare it justified not only a 3 minute segment on the news, but an entire 1 hour long documentary?

You know you've got a losing case when someone says, "But think of the precedent about holding people accountable!"

She wasnt convicted for CAUSING him to do the shooting. She was convicted for ALLOWING him to do the shooting.

We can't fix stupid, but we can give it a court date

Once again, I cannot comprehend why a 15-year-old would even need a gun in the first place. It might be that I'm not from the US, but to me, kids shouldn't be allowed near a firearm.