Why is Radahn Required for Shadow of the Erdtree? | Elden Ring Lore Theory

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Published 2024-02-28
In order to reach the Shadow of the Erdtree, Miyazaki casually confirmed that you have to not only defeat Mohg, but also Radahn. This has massive lore implications.

In this video, I offer a few theories for why you have to send everyone's favorite horse lover to the glue factory. For instance, Miquella tried to revive Godwyn with the Eclipse, but was most likely thwarted by Radahn halting the stars. A revived Godwyn would have given him the strongest claim to both the throne and to Godfrey's legacy, which would have threatened Radahn's status as a Godfrey stan.

Famitsu Interview with Miyazaki:
s.famitsu.com/news/202402/22335199.html

IGN Interview with Miyazaki:
www.ign.com/articles/hidetaka-miyazaki-elden-ring-…

Nihlus11 on Radahn and the Shadow of the Erdtree: www.reddit.com/r/EldenRingLoreTalk/comments/1awu9u…

Nihlus11 on how Mohg infiltrated the Haligtree to grab Miquella:
www.reddit.com/r/EldenRingLoreTalk/comments/10bwia…

‪@ratatoskr6324‬    • What And Where Are The Shadow Lands? ...  

00:00 Introduction
00:25 Radahn, Miquella, and the Eclipse
02:49 Radahn's rivalry with Godwyn
03:31 Why did Malenia fight Radahn?
05:44 Jerren was one of Mohg's Bloody Fingers
07:14 Is Radahn Propping Up a Veil over the Land of Shadow?

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All Comments (21)
  • 😭😭 folks were so confused about why radahn needed to be cooked, but it’s always been about the stars!! Bro literally halted EVERYONES fate
  • @TheScrootch
    A man halts the stars and suddenly everyone is his enemy
  • @Luaeria
    Interesting. I had suspected Malenia would have fought Radahn at Miquella’s behest specifically because he was wanting to bring about the eclipse but knew he couldn’t because of Radahn.
  • @caliaid
    also, all that blood from Radahn’s arena seeping down into Mogwyn palace (+ the new line from the DLC voice over about “blood must be spilled in that place…”) so maybe Mogh also chose the location for all the bloodfall (to either suit his purposes, or Miquella is 2 steps ahead and using it to water a new - shadow? - haligtree?)
  • @jeezy3
    I like this theory. Jerren secretly working for Mohg and recruiting powerful warriors to give Radahn a “warriors death,” thinking this is what Radahn would want. When in reality, he’s trying to kill Radahn to prevent him from holding back the stars and outer gods. So he’s trying to get as much help as he can. Radahn is fighting for his life, actually trying to stay alive to protect the lands between and Ranni, Malenia and Mohg are trying to kill him for their own plans 🫠🫠🫠
  • @KindredCorpus
    Ohh I like the idea of Radahn holding back the Blood Star
  • @KingUniverso
    Jerren being a bloody finger is an incredible detail
  • @Luaeria
    I had no idea Jerren was a bloody finger. Mind blown!
  • @Dogmun
    i love how deep the lore in this game is that so many different speculations all could work in so many ways it truly is a masterpiece
  • @chainclaw07
    One new point of lore we have is that Miquella departed his flesh into the shadowlands WILLINGLY. So I actually think that Malenia went to fight Radahn to make Miquellas return possible, to open a way back for miquella by freeing the movement of the stars. So Mohg could've taken his body while Malenia was fighting Radahn, which was not really considered before... because there was no correlation between the stars and miquellas fate
  • @TrapOnTheMoon
    radahn is such a chad for just waking up one day and deciding to stop the stars
  • This is a great video, I think you’re spot on about the eclipse and Mohgs desire to remove Radahn and Malenia from the chessboard as potential competitors for the new dynasty, however, my one question is involving the theory that Mohg framed Radahn as hiding Miquella. The potential flaw I see in this speculation is that we know that upon her defeat, Malenia is returned to the Haligtree “waiting” for Miquella to return. If she believed that he was in Radahn’s possession and she failed to retrieve him, why would she and the other followers of the Haligtree wait in this fashion? Through that evidence it’s implied that Miquella’s disappearance was in large a mystery no one had solved. Again, amazing video my man, this proved to me you deserve more recognition, just wanted to throw that bit of questioning into the narrative
  • @whatsnewbois9814
    Radahns rise to power is basically a bunch of side quests: 1.Train like your Idol Godfrey 2. Challenge the fell Omen and become lord (failed) 3. Ride a glorius steed 4. Learn gravity magic to keep riding glorious steed 5. Learn gravity magic even harder to protect Selia from falling stars 6. Keep holding back the stars forever because you dont like change 7. Defeat the undefeated Blade of Miquella (failed)
  • @geert574
    when Radahn leaned into the microphone and said 'Murdock....I'm coming for you' I really knew it was one of the dlcs of all time
  • @Lifelez
    3:31 I would say it's the other way around. Although we see people being able to teleport to the mohgwyn palace with even a stationary gateway being close to the Haligtree, we never see it being the other way around, mohg freely traveling anywhere in an instance. Furthermore, the haligtree is specifically very secluded. Whereas there are many stationary gateways to all parts of the Lands Between, the way of getting to the Haligtree is so difficult that Gideon massacred a whole village to even get the slither of a chance to learn about a secret passage. The Theory of Mohg just being able to walk in would not only need the convenience of him just mastering instant teleportation but also defeat many themes and setups around the Haligtree and Miquella. It is more likely that Malenia was aware of Radahns role in Miquellas plan, thus ventured to slay him, and after being defeated and a bloody war fought, Mohg snatched Miquella away and set up camp directly under Caelid which was fresh with death and blood after the mentioned war, so he could corrupt the palace and Miquella.
  • @TheAaron3149
    Comming back too this now we all know from the dlc that chadaun is a victim 😢
  • @jeezy3
    Just when we thought Radahn couldn’t get any cooler
  • @LordKnightBane
    Great vid and great catch about Jeren being a secret bloody finger. Makes you think there could have been other spies even in the haligtree to summon/get access for Mohg.
  • @nxbis
    You were very accurate with your theory on manipulative femboy with god-complex luring everyone into his plan well done
  • @marvcollins7842
    Interesting, Jerren being a Bloody Finger makes a lot of sense! I just thought of the "Bloody Finger Vanquished" message as the game's default for defeating a dark phantom, but I should have known!