Most DAW controllers are DOOMED!

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Published 2023-04-15
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INDEX:
00:00 Intro
00:34 The protocol issue
01:39 SSL's solution
02:24 How efficient is a console workflow?
03:02 Which plugins are supported?
04:05 Is it the best?
04:25 However...
05:41 Am I going to keep them?
06:45 Support me!

All Comments (21)
  • @musicstuff
    Basically need the same to happen as what happened with MIDI. All of the major players got together and agreed a route forward. Basically what needs to happen again
  • Did you try Softube Console 1 and Console 1 Fader? They also have SSL soft emulation with a couple color circuits built in. I have the Console 1 fader but I only use it as a monitor control over my UA Apollo Console so I don't really use it for mixing. Just curious if you tried these vs the UC1 setup.
  • I could live with that setup. The “Pre DAW” era was limited to what you had to work with in your studio. And the best sounding records were made. I think the endless choices of plugins are a distraction. I would happily settle for an SSL in a box.
  • I use a UF-8 in my analog workflow - it controls WesAudio ngLeveler automation interfaces via MCU, which lets me use the UF-8 as an analog fader surface (with recall!). It's great for riding mics and setting levels to tape when tracking, and even better when mixing (I have a few summing mixers of various flavors I use).
  • @squeezenor
    Sticking with the console 1/fader combo. Not only does it come preloaded with an officially licensed SSL 4000, but it largely addresses most of the concerns with daw integration and plug in options. Being able to make custom channel strips for various tasks is totally worth the price of admission and reduces the need for more plug ins/hardware. And the support is great, the options and features keep expanding, and it's been completely trouble free in the many years I've owned it. Zero regrets.
  • @Harrysound
    I have both and use them with Cubase. It’s been fantastic to mix with. Cubase does allow comprehensive mapping and I use 3 layers. Cubase for layer one , ssl 360 for layer 2 and the 3rd layer is set to ableton but then I map it as it’s on own separate controller in Cubase .
  • @postman9699
    I always appreciate your reviews. You have voiced my biggest problem with computer based audio as an old analog guy. Analog communicates with simple audio cables that don't need driver updates. That's why I never let go of a bunch of it.
  • I’ve had really great experiences working with Avid EUCON control surfaces like the S3 and S6! Especially if you’re working in Pro Tools. They can be really great for mixing, especially if you’re working with big track counts like film sessions, and mixing in 5.1, 7.1, atmos, etc! Loved the video!
  • I think the tascam model 12, 16, 24s are the way to go. I want to see them put out an updated version with a few extra features - inputs on each channel, polarity flips per channel (or at least some) additional groups and either individual channel outs or extra group outs. I think the multi track factor to SD and DAW integration is SUPER cool and gives users a lot of options. I’d gladly pay more for those few extra features though
  • working with 3 UF8 and 1 UC1 and I will never be going back :) they for sure work flawless and it improves every mix I make just because you can use the touch of real faders .
  • @stingylizard
    Excellent video,great channel,too. We use a Behringer Compact w 9 motorized faders in Studio One with instant ease,but it's pure hell setting it up in Samplitude or ACID. Softube is the fave controller
  • @Horbone
    Console 1 works flawlessly in Reaper and Studio One, haven't tested other DAW's. Faderport's integration with Studio 1 is seamless, I even went back to S1 because of it. I can mix 98% mouse free with that combo. Heavily invested in Softube and haven't tried SSL, but it looks great.
  • @White Sea Studio although the SSL controller and fader are awesome, do you feel that Softube Console 1 and Fader 1 compare favorably as an alternative if one is interested in adding controllers to their set up?
  • @Kirstin99
    I think the SSL controller looks nice, but the Console 1 is the actually the better solution. The reason is: you can choose in between SSL, API, NEVE, etc. console emulations. You can control Softube and UAD EQs and Compressor right away. Cheers André
  • @dominicbout
    I have the Icon QCon Pro and am indeed mainly stuck with MCU mode. Although customization of mappings is very dependent on the DAW you use (I use Reason, which has some LUA files you can edit) but most of all I just enjoy having quick access to gain, pan, mute, solo etc. Love the analog needle on the SSL though :D
  • Great review! I got my SSL UC1 and UF8 around February, I absolutely love how fast I can navigate through the tracks in Logic and balance, EQ and compress them without even having to look at my screen. Going in all by ears greatly improves the mix. The faders really feel as smooth as on an analog console and the fact that it's motorised and remembers every setting on a session speeds up the workflow a lot. I agree on the plugins part. Even though it is possible to control third party plugins through the UF8, I'm a lot faster doing this on the screen still. A cool feature is that you can create shortcuts on the controller where you can perform a certain action within your session with the push of a button. All in all for me, someone who mixes entirely inside the box its a keeper!
  • @OrpazAgranov1
    There was an announcement from SSL few days ago that Harrison is now part of Audiotonix Group - I guess it could suggest that we can expect SSL 360 fully integrated on the Mixbus platform. At least I hope so :)
  • @CLdwyer
    Idk how your DAW is but I CAN fully control parameters with the UF8 for almost any plug-in I have using the rotaries and faders. I think both Ableton & ProTools have that capability.