This is why no one’s buying this

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Apple least expensive iPhone SE went through a least expensive update. So Jonathan took a look to see if it's still good value, or if you can find a better deal elsewhere.

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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Introduction
0:50 What the new SE gets
3:00 Who it's for
4:18 Thanks Anker!
4:43 Android alternatives
6:14 Camera comparison
6:36 The choice
7:17 Other iPhone deals
8:17 Conclusion

All Comments (21)
  • @mhosain
    The cinematography in this channel is what makes it different from other LMG channels. Absolutely love this.
  • @ivan01041991
    A target group you're forgetting is businesses. I work for an international company with a limited it budget and a dislike for byod. Apple is an obvious choice as a company phone because the amount of versions and compatibility issues is kept to a minimum. Our IT doesn't care about the camera or the small screen, they care that it is affordable and that it will get security updates for the next 5-6 years 😉
  • @Gluodin
    Something that I learned from working in a rehab/geriatric ward is that Home Button is much more accessible for people who lack fine motor skills, in comparison to gesture controls. One click and you’re back home, double click to see open apps. Without the home button, it’s swipe up quickly to go home, swipe and hold for multi tasking screen. That isn’t too easy for the elderly and people with disabilities. I hope Apple continues making phones with physical buttons/or improve the gesture. I use SE personally because I don’t do much on my phone. (Got an iPad for most tasks)
  • @espaciobarra
    About the A53 thing: the consensus in general is that the new model is a bit of a "sidegrade" compared to the A52 series (and specially the A52s 5G revision with a more efficient and snappier Snapdragon SoC). The A53 has the misfortune of having a slow and inefficient Exynos chip which makes things quite laborious. Also, no headphone jack compared to previous models. Great video as usual, nonetheless. Love the more chilled out style.
  • @zyssica
    This was surprisingly deep… I have the 13 regular, but I kinda love the simplicity of the Touch ID, my mom still has the 7 and I like how small it is, very light compared to the bulkiness of the 13. Not sure I’d upgrade it though, they’d need to add better features for me to consider, like the camera upgrade, better storage, etc.
  • @WolfySnowy
    From what I've seen, A52S, older model that released only in December is actually better than A53 as far as performance goes.
  • @lobstahpotts
    The release of the 12 mini is what finally led me to upgrade from my original SE. I was never really interested in the current iPhone 8 body and compared to family members' 12 and 12 Pro Max, I continue to be very happy with the form factor of the mini. My hope for the future of the SE lineup would be adopting that form factor in its next refresh, to align with the 13 mini no longer being available. I don't really have any interest if it sticks with this type of form factor, the convenience of Touch ID with masks notwithstanding. Meanwhile, I'm considering if I want to upgrade to a 13 mini now to eke out another year or two of use in case they don't...
  • @marssguy
    “Why do I need 5G?” That’s been my question ever since they started rolling it out. LTE is more than fast enough for the vast majority of people. 5G has much worse penetration through walls and objects, requiring much more frequent tower placement. It also uses more battery while using 5G. Many more disadvantages too. Overall, never understood the push for 5G.
  • @AaronSkone
    My grandma upgraded from an iPhone 7 to the new SE earlier this year because the 7 was slowing down and she didn't want to give up the home button. I'm fairly convinced that the SE's market is for those who don't want to change or those who are too old to want to change, and I respect Apple doing that immensely. Because not everyone is like you and I, wanting the newest tech every single year, some would just rather it stay the way it is.
  • The SE exists to also fill the niche of "sleeper" phones: high performance in an unassuming package. With my SE (2016) my friends were always amazed that my "iPhone 5" was running iOS 15. This phone sorta serves that same purpose: looks like an 8. Doesn't perform like an 8. It's for those who want the older style, but not the older performance. I like to personally believe the SE on these phones now stands for "Sleeper Edition".
  • @Mergatroid
    I have a family member who has extremely limited eyesight and is very familiar with iOS at this point (having had an iPhone 6S previously). That family member needed a new phone a few months ago but also needed something bigger. We wound up getting a used iPhone 8 Plus because it had to have the home button (since said family member wouldn't be able to see well enough to use the gesture controls but can feel for the home button and because it's just so familiar). I wish Apple would release an SE in the body of the 8 Plus rather than the 8, because at this point I think more people would go for that.
  • @Hope_mns
    I’ve been using se 2nd gen for 2 years now. It’s my first iPhone and I love it! Yep, the battery is a trash but performance is really good! I don’t take a lot of photos, but camera is ok for my daily usage and taking some pics for insta. The main issue with camera is artificial blurring( sometimes it behaves strangely). My group mate has the same phone and she is happy with it too. I’d say it is a good variant when your main goal is longevity.
  • Still using my 1st gen iPhone SE as a car play phone, works well. Partner has a second gen SE that she likes (5g not available here) so don't really see the point apart from the ram bump
  • @poluticon
    I bought one of these (2nd Gen) because it does everything I need a phone to do and it doesn't cost $700+. I hate carrying around a huge phone and while the iPhone 13 mini is a perfect size I really don't see the justification in paying over $300 more for it. I guess I'm in that fringe group even though I'm not a teenager or a boomer. 🤷🏽‍♂️
  • @amillusion1
    I have a 13 pro, but sometimes I pop my SIM card back into second gen SE because of its simplicity and small form factor. Apple really nailed it with the SE and i hope it makes a return next year with a “new” old body.
  • @Slurkz
    Nice one! Thanks! 💜 08:10 A reason not to get iPhone mini might be the much higher screen replacement costs: $230 vs $130 for the SE
  • @Neoxon619
    Isn’t the iPhone SE going to get a more substantial upgrade next year? Plus there’s the whole EU USB-C mandate to consider, which could impact the aforementioned redesign.
  • @davyrando1203
    I have a 12 Mini with 128gb - and it was offered for $200 off a year ago. I love it and I would absolutely recommend it! I really miss touch ID though. It just made so much sense.
  • I love Mac Address videos. They're the only channel under the LMG umbrella that I have notifications turned on. It has everything to do with the structure. They're very well written. They have a level of quality comparable to MKBHD video and the products themselves from Apple.
  • @thanorodd5663
    I upgraded from an iPhone 8 Plus (which had stopped connecting to 4G LTE) to the new iPhone SE. Truth be told, you pretty much nailed exactly why I chose it -- getting (almost) flagship performance, which is easily going to last several years, in a budget phone price class. I'm a couple decades off from being a boomer, but the way I use my phone is pretty simple. I recognize the camera has shortcomings, but it's more than good enough for capturing moments and memories - I'm not a content creator and not trying to grow an Instagram following, so I see severe diminishing returns from the newer features and improved fidelity of more modern smartphone cameras. The screen sure is small, but I see diminishing returns there, too; I overwhelmingly use a computer or television to watch video content rather than my phone, and the 4.7" display is just fine for reading articles online, scrolling Twitter, chatting on Discord, and so on. It's good enough to read and respond to emails and Slack messages for work, too. I also like Touch ID, but that wasn't a major consideration. As you say, it may be that I represent a very small and shrinking population of mobile users, but I'm extremely happy with my purchase.