Why Jiaoqiu is much better in practice than in theory ft v5 l Honkai: Star Rail

Just want to mention that jiaoqiu’s talent is 5 stacks where the first one is 15% and the other 4 are 5% each so max stacks is 35% and not 40% like you’ve used for the calculation

Three months(April 20 to be exact) into the game, and he's the first 5 stars character I'm going to pull. I'm a F2P and have been saving jades until I see a character I like. Just follow your heart, guys. Skip if you don't like his design, think he's unworthy or whatever the reasons are and vice versa. Don't force yourself to pull or not pull a character just because of what other people say and regret afterward. Just go for what you want.

In pure fiction, Jiaoqiu does suffer from uptime issues. His ult was changed so it can only apply debuffs 6 times total. its affected less in moc and as bc theres not just waves on waves of enemies also, gui's vuln debuffs dont reset on boss phases edit: i saw that u addressed this in the video, i just commented before i watched that part, mb for those of u wondering, u can go +1 every 3 turns with qpq or huohuo or shared feeling

Thank you very much, I saw jiaoqiu's drip market and was really interested by his kit, especially with the nihility healing part. I'm sad it got removed and after a few other nerfs I was really reconsidering in pulling for jiaoqiu. But after this video yeah I will definitely pull for him! Thanks for the information. here's a subscribe for you

I'm overall still disappointed with his personal damage and v5 changes, but at the same time, still pulling for him solely for my e0s1 acheron. despite all the nerfs, he still stacks acheron ult a lot faster and has more consistent debuff uptime between waves and boss phases compared to other nihility units at the end of the day; and pulling for e0 jiaoqiu is a lot cheaper than going for 2 acheron copies(e0 to e2) which can reach up to 4 hard pities at worst case scenario. also, that support units in hoyo games tend to age better than dps units.

Jiaoqiu's Biggest Strength is his debuff uptime. I will get him for that. Also they can potentially buff the mobs , elites and the boss speed potentially ruin the debuff uptime of pela and guinaifen.

05:53 Chart correction. Sorry, the 6 stack limit starts on the enemy's turn, i dunno what was going on in my brain. So under the silvermane lieutenants, it should be 5/6 and 4/6 respectively

Honestly after this, he doesn't seem as bad but the reality is... Nothing about his kit would make him pullable when people have built Pela, Guinaifen, or have any of the limited HARMony characters. His LC has more value than himself as it's an upgrade to Guinaifen or side-grade to Black Swan and requires less pulls to spend on compared to getting him as a unit. If the leaks are true and Black Swan reruns with him, my boy is definitely left with a bad hand. Husbando enjoys have been waiting for a support since the start and he's basically an ugrapde to Acheron PF and Ruan Mei substitute in a DoT team (I think the fact Ruan Mei gives unconditional +10 spd gives her an extra advantage too). He can work with other teams but not as effective as Acheron/DoT teams. But oh well, I'm still pulling him tho, hopefully he comes home early so I can still have for Feixiao (collecting all the Foxians is one of my goals). I'll make him work in my DoT team and my Ratio team. Makes me wonder strong he would be if he were to be in a DoT team with BS, RM, and Huohuo. Because I didn't get Kafka since I wanted Ratio's LC so badly (unfortunately didn't have enough Jades to get his LC so 😔).

The problem with him is the amount of impact he provides doesn't justify him being a limited 5*, especially with the kit designs other limited characters are receiving, his was just a hybrid that can be neglected especially if you have E2 Acheron, really not worth using 180 if not 240 jades on him, especially that his utility outside Acheron is questionable. Im personally giving up on Acheron rerun as i have a feeling that every incoming nihility will be mid, will go for better lightning dps and harmony instead (still have destruction lightning after all)

Thank you very much! Comfy video and very informative!

Nice work! Here’s a like and sub.

i don't completely understand but the amount of effort you put into this video convinced me 😅

With all my respect, I dont think you can justify pulling a 5 star Pela, when you can use the jades for Ruan Mei or Robin, Jiaoqiu is simple a super bad pull, lets hope no one waste currency (unless he is your favorite then favorite > meta) because you can use Pela instead. Edit: keep in mind that is 180 pulls to guaranteed a character and you are asuming he will have his LC so another 160 pulls.

Every time everyone gets a news balance always complain, just wait to release, we'll find out, and Hoyolab team still in progress to give him right balance before to release him

Thank you for the video

First!!!!! Yay!! I can't believe you created this video on no sleep. Honestly the quality it pretty good. I love all the references you provided too. If you want to make another video on this series you could expand upon his fast build with solitary healing in PF. From what I'm seeing this build option is giving people some hope.

i'm doing a full 0 cycle Rotation calculation for Ratio+Jiaoqiu. If you want to use it in a video you can, just don't say i was the source because i don't want to get too involved in leaks crafting. i will share the spreadsheet with you if you like it.

Very good video. A lot of points I agree with.

I don't agree with Jiao's criticism that you fought against in the last video. You justify the nerfs to Jiao by the fact of Acheron's existence. My main complaint is that the developers can actually very easily make a character who will be Acheron's signature support without making her too strong, but at the same time allowing this character to be a strong option in other teams. Moreover, the developers did the worst thing they could do with this character and made him a DoT character. Well, he's too strong for Acheron, right? In this case, why does Jiao give an ultimate damage bonus? A damage type that only Acheron and Argenti fully rely on. Same thing with Def Shred. This stat balances itself due to the fact that it has a limitation. At the same time, many characters or relics have a bit of def shred, even if sometimes it is hidden behind eidolons or cones. Will Acheron be very sad if the def shred in her team far exceeds 100%? I don’t think so, on the contrary, she will have the opportunity to use someone other than Pela or at least another cone other than Perls. But at the same time, characters with built-in def shred will be better able to greet Jiao. His multipliers were nerfed precisely because he is now a DoT character, this is their “trick” so that they do not collect crits. By the way, DoT was given to him only so that he would not collect crits, because I don’t see any reason to use him in a DoT team when there is Sampo (whom no one uses as a support). And these are just my personal complaints, which I usually don’t find discussed anywhere. This character still has many problems that are not always practical, but this does not make them disappear. At v1, I accepted Jiao as a character who had problems with energy, dependence on the cone and boring technique. But subsequent patches only gave him an ultimate on the 1st turn and otherwise made this character worse. For some reason Jade is not respected for being the best PF unit, is there something different here? Is there any reason to use Jiao outside of "with Acheron in PF"?

Jq stonger defender of today, vs... I dont think anyone has ever defended him this hard before. I want to say, the example on the video with bosses transitioning and losing debuffs (argenti in this case) didnt mean anything in reality. Pela being fast acted first and got her ult and applied the lc's debuff before any dps could go. Not saying this will always be the case just funny how it invalidated the concern in this case.