When Great Movies Flop At The Box Office

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EVERYTHING is gonna "flop" (esp from a financial standpoint) at the box office when the movie budget is SO FUCKING BIG. Movie budgets are getting ridiculous these days

I think another reason the Suicide Squad failed was by the time it came out a lot of the general audience had lost all trust and faith in the DCEU as by that point a lot of their movies consistently really lacked a lot in quality compared to the MCU

Movie theaters are so beyond expensive. Me and my cousin went to the theaters on a Monday night, got one drink and one bag of popcorn, and it was $30. No one can afford to go to the movies anymore, especially if it’s gonna be out on streaming a month or so later

Movie theater manager here. Biggest issue we have is the pricing is making people hesitant to come see movies weekly. When tickets are almost $20 a piece it makes it hard to think of when a good time to go when weekly movies are coming out. Furiosa is amazing and its busiest number for its opening night was under 75. Hollywood controls the prices and we get almost no money from it. (That's why concessions are so expensive, that's what we make money on) Hollywood is also making us not accept passes to movies for the first two weeks something is out, when they tell us to give out passes when there is an issue. Also, The Northman was amazing and is based on the Norse legend which is what Hamlet is based on. So its basically a live action Lion King. Issue with it was release date. Things that come out in April tend to not do well unless its during Spring Break.

Disagree on the Fall Guys marketing and trailers being effective. The trailer didn’t do anything and it felt like was a mid budget Netflix like movie with terrible humor.

The Youtuber Mina Le made a video essay about the subscription fatigue. And one thing she mentionned was that back then, studio could make the money back by selling DVDs of the movie. So it gave them more freedom in the writting and production, because even if people didn’t go watch in cinema or didn’t like it, those who liked it would purchase the DVDs. That was the case for Fight Club for example. People didn’t understand the marketing so didn’t go watch in theathers. But then those who watched spread the word and it made the money back with the DVDs sales.

The absolute gem of a movie "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." by Guy Ritchie is also worth mentioning as a massive box office failure which barely covered the budget. Which is a damn shame giving how much almost anyone who've actually seen it, adores this charming and quite clever little action spy film today. Henry Cavill is apparently doomed to be casted in either movies that will eventually flop or to be casted in other...quistionable...franchises with poor studio managment. And Armie Hammer...sure was an actor.

I can tell you exactly why more movies are flopping, and that's because of the cost of going to the theatre. 20 years ago, me and my friends used to go to the theatre for an afternoon because it was a cheap way to kill a couple of hours . Now its much more expensive so you have to actually budget for it, and you're much less likely to gamble on what movies you'll watch. I used to not care if a movies was average or bad, but now I'd be pissed if i wasted my money on a bad movie.

The story I've heard about the failure of "Treasure Planet" is that Disney wanted to make the switch to full CGI because the old animation creators had more expensive union contracts. But they were still required by some old contract to make this movie. So they did, spent little to nothing on advertisment and let it die, so they could use this flop as a justification to fire all their animators and go full CGI.

i honestly think the reason some movies are flopping these days is because the internet is so separated. marketing can make all these cool and interesting ads but because ads are now so targeted to certain parts of internet communities thanks to algorithms, one part of the internet might see these cool trailers of new movies while other parts of the internet might not ever get that ad on their timeline/fyp/etc and they just don’t know this movie exists.

"Edge of Tomorrow" is perhaps one of the smartest, most entertaining sci-fi movies ever made. It's fucking BRILLIANT. I had no desire to see this in theaters because the trailers didn't make it interesting to me at all. I only watched it because my brother went to see it and was emphatic that it was amazing and I would love it. He was SO RIGHT. I've seen it dozens of times at this point and it never, ever gets old. It's so good. Seriously. The characters and actors are top notch. The story is beautifully told - it doesn't pander or spoon feed the audience at all - and the action scenes (even though by the nature of the story they are repetitive) are compelling and exciting. I would KILL for a sequel to this film!

The Fall Guy is an old TV show. The movie is not a direct copy, but it's not an "original" idea

Remember when great movies cost around 50-100 million dollars and thus would be almost guaranteed to make a profit? Hollywood needs to get back to that

Hollywood doesn't understand that not everyone wants to go see a movie EVERY weekend or EVERY day! Majority of people have jobs, school, families, friends, other things they want to do. It's practically summer now, and people like to go swimming or go to water parks or river/lake trips. Also Hollywood needs to stop with over budgeted films. Sheesh, they act like gamblers expecting a big win at a casino. And if we're comparing Challengers to Fall Guy, I can guess Challengers had a WAY smaller budget.

Lisa Frankenstein could’ve been a cult classic for the 2020s

Jennifer’s Body. Perfect example of trying to sell a movie to the wrong audience, by making the trailers a Megan Fox thirst fest instead of the feminine horror that it actually is. So people had no clue what they were going in to watch, they just knew from the Transformers movies that she was hot, so that’s why they were there. The trailers were misleading and from what I remember the writer, Diablo Cody, had no say in how they were marketing the movie, so she just had to watch as it all went to shit.

Too many movies are being made. Too many expensive movies are being made. Too many movie executives wants their movies to be a blockbuster. We are broke and have to make the decision to go watch a movie or wait for the streaming release in a month or so.

A big problem I notice nowadays with marketing for movies is that there will be a bunch of ads for a movie months before it comes out and then nothing once it’s actually released. Basically every movie I watch in theaters I don’t find out it’s out until I go on twitter and see people talking about it. I think a lot of studios have a big focus on “generating hype” and blow all the marketing budget far in advance of the release, and I almost never see ads saying stuff like “coming out this Friday” or “in theaters now” like I used to. I’d definitely see a lot more movies in theaters if they put a much bigger emphasis on when the movie was actually coming out so I could make plans in advance or at the very least notice it when it’s currently airing. For people who aren’t constantly on like the fandango app looking at what’s currently showing, there needs to be better awareness of when movies are in theaters. Of course I don’t think this would entirely solve the problem, but for me personally I’ve missed several movies I was excited about because as soon as they released the marketing campaign died and I only thought to check when they were coming out after their run was ending

Charles Laughton might have been unlucky as a director, but he was an extremely well-known actor in cinema, theatre, and TV with a long career and several awards to his name.