When Comms turn DEADLY! Inex-Adria flight 1308

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When I heard " mountains" "fog" "unexperienced controller" "language barrier" I knew this wouldn't end well.

A tragedy showcasing Reason's swiss cheese model. We went over this accident in ATC training but you could never get ATC instructors to explain the pilots thoughts this well. Thank you a lot for this.

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There is only a couple of videos covering the unfortunate YU-ANA flight. But none of them covered the procedural part in so much detail as you. For which I am very grateful. It has been 42 years since this accident happened and since I lost one of the parents in this accident, I was only 1 month old. I have searched a lot to get answers but there were always conflicting stories about what really went wrong. Many people didn’t get their closure. And many still cannot accept what really happened. Thank you for this episode (too).

My father actually flew with the same plane (YU-ANA) and most of the crew less than a week earlier also on a charter flight from Greece. If I remember correctly that flight was also chartered by the travelling agency Kompas so even the same tour guides were on that unlucky flight. He knew some of them personally. We went on a family trip to Corsica and Sardignia in ‘08 and stayed in a hotel and saw Mt. San Pietro in the distance. My father just watched from the balcony and said nothing. As we drove past the mountain he was quiet all the time which was strange to me at the time as I did not know what has happened there as I was to young to comprehend. The thing I also remember was that as we were leaving Sardignia for Venice we got to the airport and found out that the flight was an MD-83 from AlItalia and upon seeing what plane it was my father went all pale and nervous. To this day I can clearly remember about one week later when we were at home he finally broke down and told me what has happened and why he was acting all strange during our trip… Greetings from Slovenia

I haven’t found anyone that brings these accidents and incidents to life the way you do. Keep up the good work.

At my old industrial job, I had a supervisor that told me to always repeat the instruction you get from your partner back to them, rather than just saying "yes, I'll do that". That way, if your readback of the instruction is wrong, your partner will catch the mistake and read it back correctly. As you have said, <1% of misunderstandings will slip through this safety net.

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Quick shoutout from Slovenia - this accident added a significant dent into the trust we had of flying back then. It is so ironic to see, how much information was available in the final report, but the news just talked about mountains and unexpected fog - seemed so "reasonable" at the time

The pilots' failure to look at the chart was most certainly one of the holes in the swiss cheese. The misunderstanding was just another hole in the swiss cheese. Cleared to 3000 when the chart said 6800 should have triggered alarm bells in the minds of the pilots.

Greetings from Slovenia! I heard of this accident as being the worst in the history of our country when they finally decided to clean up the debris in 2008. And btw, my compliments of your good prononciation of Slovene names.

I live in Corsica and have been to the crash site. There is still a certain amount of wreckage there. Pretty rough terrain so I guess they just left most of it in place.

Here to watch this, sounds like another story I haven't heard of

I’ve heard of this incident, I can’t wait to see your perspective on this along with your ever-excellent presentation.

Being just a passenger (not an expert), that was my first question, even at the beginning of the video: "Why is the holding pattern on complicated terrain rather than on the sea?" Sometimes it doesn't take expertise, but just common horse sense, to diagnose the problem.