Why Swiss Mechanical Movement is More Expensive (Sellita SW200 VS Seiko NH35)

I've found that my Selita/ETA (Hamilton/Tissot/Rado/Mido/Glycine) powered watches are far more delicate - especially if you (like me) didn't know any better and hand wound the watch to get it going. I killed two SW's that way until I got educated. NH35, despite it's unrefined nature is a brilliant piece of engineering.

It's unfair to say this comparison shows the difference in quality or finishing between Swiss and Japanese movements because it compares Sellita's $200 top-grade movement with Seiko's $50 entry-level workhorse. What it really shows are the differences between price points. A more appropriate comparison would be the SW200 and the Seiko 6L35.

Such a misleading description, you shouldn’t said Swiss vs Japanese movement over and over again when comparing a $30 vs $200 movement. Just say the model no. Or just use the equivalent tier movement from each origin like seiko 6r/9 series miyota vs sw200.

"while comparing the nh35 and sw200 isn't fair because they exist in a different price bracket this comparison should show you how Swiss and Japanese movements differ in their underlying design philosophy" - proceeds to not talk about design philosophy and instead unfairly comparing these 2 particular movements.

One movement costs $50 (the Seiko) and the other $189 (the Sellita). You were right at the opening saying that it was not a fair comparison! I would not generalize this to say that all Japanese movements are inferior to Swiss at a given price point.

In my engineering undergrad. I learned equipment that requires tight tolerances will not be as reliable or outlast equipment that does not need those tight tolerances. Requirement of extremely high tolerances imply when Parts wear down, function is impeded thus needing service at a higher rate. This rises down time of use and increases cost

Swiss movements are more expensive because the Swiss think that they're more expensive and if the Japanese beat them at anything they'll just change the rules again.

To make a fair comparison you should buy movements of the same price range. Next time try a Seiko 6R35, it would be more fair

Just to play Devils advocate here. I had two Oris watches, both with SW200's, both had to be returned under warranty for issues with their date wheels not adjusting, I've plenty of mechanical watches and only ever adjust the date way clear of midnight, but both had the same issue within six months of new purchase, they never felt particularly clean before or after the warranty work. On the other hand, I've plenty of Seiko's that have simply never given me any issues of any kind, in keeping or adjusting time or date. That said, I still prefer Swiss, but, genuine ETA is the way to go, both my Sellita experiences were poor. Oris's now sold, never going down that road again. Seiko's are just superb workhorses.

The NH35 might be more difficult to service, but would anyone service it instead of swapping it out for new NH35? Unless the customer insists on servicing the existing movement.

I have had more entry level Swiss Movements fail compared to my Japanese Movement watches, they each have advantages and disadvantages.

"Do not hold the movement like this" Proceeds to hold the movement like this

I like the H-50 on my Hamilton Automatic which is still the ETA 2801-2, but they have reduced the beat rate to 21,600 VPH (3hz) and increased the size of the barrel to allow for a superior power reserve, quite smart and simple. Getting -1 second a day and sometimes spot on.

I really respect you guys for introducing the sw200 to the kit lineup! I've always wanted to work with one. Given the two main problems the sw200 faces (handwinding breaking the ratchet wheel, and the reversers getting stuck and causing helicopter rotor) I'd be really happy if you guys released a video showing how to swap out/service these specific parts to fix a broken sw200. Then I'd feel much more confident building and maintaining my own sw200 watch

This is Like comparing Audi A8 with Camry. You gotta compare things in same weight class

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one thing you didn't say: the NH35 got seiko magic lever automatic works, which is more efficient than traditionnal

3:43 the time the date change starts depends on hand alignment at time of casing up not the moment manufacturer 3:43

Why not chose a Miyota 9000 series? It would have been a fairer comparison.

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