How Speedrunners ALREADY Completely Broke Mario Wonder
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Published 2023-12-01
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All Comments (21)
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11:11 The Diamond and Pearl remakes didn't check for any gym badges because the originals didn't check for any gym badges. The code was literally copied and pasted straight from the originals, and we know this because the remakes have the same bugs as those original games, including a bug where Fire Fang hits through Wonder Guard (when it's hacked onto a Pokemon that isn't Shedinja that isn't weak to Fire).
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As a wonder runner, it is insane to see how fast this game has been ripped apart. Most of us literally woke up to this overnight out of bounds discovery. It's a shame that Nintendo patched this, forcing many people to avoid updating and even factory resetting. Great in-depth and accurate explanation, and I can't wait to see how Wonder speedruns evolve in the future :)
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The thing about implicit/explicit checks reminds me of how in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, the game apparently only checks if you have the sixth badge at the mandatory Pokemon League badge check thing. It's the only badge in that game that you don't need to progress in the overworld, since it just allows you to use Fly.
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The Jet Run vs Fast Dash debate reminds me a lot of the Hammer Suit vs Fire Flower route in SMB3's longer categories. For 100%/All levels runs one is clearly better, but for the basic warpless category they'll keep switching back and forth as new strats are found!
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Great video! Most thorough breakdown of the out of bounds shenanigans in this game I've seen on youtube.
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A video breaking down the jet run vs fast dash routes would be quite interesting. It's really impressive how quickly this game is being torn apart by speedrunners, though I guess not all that surprising.
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My favorite "holy grail" skip that doesn't exist yet is the Long Hallway Autosave Skip in UNDERTALE. It's almost useless in most categories but would save over 12 hours in 100% and we are tantalizingly close to finding it.
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Hey now, with that thumbnail font, I expected to be called an "absolute legend" at the very start of the video.
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I'm probably too late, but the reason that programmers like the "implicit" checks is that it makes testing easier: You can just load into the game at any point you want and finish it from there. If you did explicit checks, you would have to play the game from the start every time, or laboriously manually craft a save file.
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I have no doubt that they had speedruns in mind when putting such a large time investment in front of the Jet Run badge. The two runs having near-identical times might have even been specially tuned to allow either to be viable
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That was the smoothest transition to a sponsor i have ever seen lmfao so unexpected aswell. You deserve a clap and a half for that one.
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I always love a good game-break but I can't help but feel kind of sad when they happen so soon after release. It's really fantastic work from all the speedrunners and glitch hunters, but it's sad to know that most likely it'll get patched away far too soon
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4:51 hey, that's me! 17:46 and that's me again! :P Amazing video Kosmic! You explained everything amazingly well. Keep it up! For those seeing this comment; me and the glitch hunting crew are still working on the World Bowser skip. It's not easy, but we have a bunch of things to work with. Don't expect it to happen anytime soon, but it might just happen in the future!
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Still think calling it the "holy grail" so soon is a bit dramatic, but doing all this in a month is still wildly impressive even with all the people theory crafting
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Oot actually checks for the emerald thing for opening the door of time, so even tho you should have it any time you exit the forest, skipping it still locks you out of the master sword until you get it, or just, door of time skip.
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Man I love your scripting. Everything is conveyed super clearly and the fluff in-between is always relevant and ties together
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Kinda sucks that at this rate they’re barely gonna actually play the game it’s all over world movement
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i wish we could have a new game+ w/ all badges unlocked. would love to see runners do the whole run w the jet run badge!
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This video turned out great! This isn't the first video which covers the topic, but it's by far the best. Great work on the script, storytelling, shown scenes, music and video in general. I've been waiting for a video like this to finally show my friends how broken Wonder actually is. It is not only informative, but also entertaining.
