The Most Controversial Problem in Philosophy

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For decades, the Sleeping Beauty Problem has divided people between two answers. Head to brilliant.org/veritasium to start your free 30-day trial, and the first 200 of you will get 20% off an annual premium subscription.

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Many thanks to Dr. Mike Titelbaum and Dr. Adam Elga for their insights into the problem.

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References:

Elga, A. (2000). Self-locating belief and the Sleeping Beauty problem. Analysis, 60(2), 143-147. - ve42.co/Elga2000

Lewis, D. (2001). Sleeping beauty: reply to Elga. Analysis, 61(3), 171-176. - ve42.co/Lewis2001

Winkler, P. (2017). The sleeping beauty controversy. The American Mathematical Monthly, 124(7), 579-587. - ve42.co/Winkler2017

Titelbaum, M. G. (2013). Ten reasons to care about the Sleeping Beauty problem. Philosophy Compass, 8(11), 1003-1017. - ve42.co/Titelbaum2013

Mutalik, P. (2016). Solution: ‘Sleeping Beauty’s Dilemma’, Quanta Magazine - ve42.co/MutalikQ2016

Rec.Puzzles - Some “Sleeping Beauty” Postings - ve42.co/SBRecPuzzles

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コメント (21)
  • If you want to vote by liking/disliking the video: “Agree with me” means 1/3 and “Disagree” means 1/2. Latest update (Nov 23, 2023): 217,332 agree with me, and 97,502 disagree with me.
  • @sinistril
    "What coin? What are you talking about? Where am I? Who are you?"
  • I'm a simple man. The probability of everything is always 50-50. It either happens, or it doesn't.
  • @a_mouse6858
    When I reached your poll, I didn't understand the controversy. If the question is "What is the probability that the coin WILL be heads?" the answer is 1/2. If the question is "What is the probability that the coin WAS heads?" is 1/3. These are two completely different questions. The first has to do with flipping a coin. The second is about what day it is.
  • My reactions when I see a Veritasium video. Amazed by the title-> Understands the concept-> Trying to understand deeply-> Gets lost-> Forgets what was the video about-> Perplexed about the reality-->Video ends->Hits the like button.
  • @lexxynubbers
    As a Canadian, I would be quite happy for a 20% chance of winning against Brazil
  • @jo_devs
    If sleeping beauty was asked "What's the probability the coin came up heads?", I think she should say 1/2. If she was asked "What's the probability that you've been woken up as part of the outcome of a heads result?", I think she should say 1/3. I think the key thing with this question and the reason there isn't (and probably can't be) consensus comes down to how it's communicated and how we as individuals interpret what's being asked of us with the answer. If your goal is to reinforce your understanding about how the coin works, you are probably a halfer. If your goal is to be correct in answering the question from the perspective of sleeping beauty, you are probably a thirder.
  • For me it becomes less paradoxical when I think of the question as rephrased as "How likely is it that Heads is responsible for you waking up this particular time?"
  • @wizardpb
    What would I say? I would say “the question ambiguous, please clarify”
  • Whenever there's no consensus in probability puzzles like this one, it usually does boil down to subtle disagreements about what is actually being asked, not the answers themselves.
  • @dukemagus
    Lessons learned: never let a researcher put you to sleep and never pay them in cash
  • I'm changing my answer to 1/2 - it doesn't matter how many times she is woken up the probability the coin came up heads in the initial toss remains the same. The experiment where you count your coin toss and then mark the outcome as either Monday heads, Monday tails, Tuesday tails - is seeing the chance of being woken up by a heads flip. This is different to the probability of the initial flip.
  • I think the question asked is really: "is this a heads day or a tails day?" and the chance of it being a tails day is twice as high as it being a heads day.
  • “Do not hit the like button” 87 people instantly ignored him
  • The experimenters look on in horror as the coin rests upon its edge. They somberly pull the sheet over Sleeping Beauty's face. After an appropriate period of silence, Erwin asks, "You guys wanna put my cat in a box with an unstable nucleus, a hammer, and a vial of nerve gas?" "Not again, Erwin..."
  • The issue with the simulation is that we presume that "in the not too distant future" realistic complex simulations of reality that are so convincing are possible. Yet, we have no reason as of yet to presume that such simulations are physically possible. There may be some things that seem logically possible given parameters of a game but are not physically possible in a real unviverse.
  • @RichardNutman
    Just shows that probability is observer dependent. Externally the coin being heads is 1/2, but from the princess's perspective it is 1/3.
  • There's a hidden lesson here about imbalanced classes in a dataset. Halfers are trying to model the distribution of the data generating function, while thirders are trying to minimize some loss function for the estimator.
  • @DqsHidden
    "Waking up on Monday with head" gets me every time.
  • In my opinion the question you seem to ask is: What is the probability that today isn’t Monday? The probability of a coin flip is always a coin flip as we say(50-50).. but the question refers to the coins state only in regard to what day it might be.. meaning that if it was H she’ll be asked once, while if it was T she’ll be asked twice, so it’s not really a philosophical problem, just that the question appears to be misleading