Ultimate Alien X: A Devastating Concept

I've always thought that the Ultimatrix would put Alien X in its worst-case scenario for eons upon eons, just like with every other DNA; by the end of it, Alien X would just come out exactly the same as before, but Serena and Bellicus are just slightly more agreeable.

Personally, I can see this version of Ultimate Alien X being a risky last resort thing. Maybe there's a minute or two where Ben is able to mantain his individuality, so he needs to quickly do what he needs to do and turn back before losing himself. I can also see the Omnitrix erasing Ben's memories whenever he turns back, as his human mind would break trying to comprehend his former omniscience.

In Ultimate Alien X form, Ben Tennyson the character would instantly realise that his world is an animated series world created for the entertainment of real humans. He would become a self aware character.

I want someone to make a fan story of this. This would be so fascinating if done right. Especially the part about him ever wanting to change back. He’d essentially would be a new being all together. Fascinating.

I feel like there's only two ways Ultimate Alien X would work. First, the way Kuro described it here. Second, he just becomes someone in an Alien X costume in the writers room.

I'm not gonna lie. Trying to convince the personalities wouldn't be that bad if Ben ever tried learning how to argue with them. He seems to just get annoyed with them and give up.

Ultimate Alien x: i dont wanna be ben anymore Omnitrix: uhhhh yea about that... runs out of energy

Honestly, I think a drawback that might arise is the fact that Ben’s presence within Alien X is different than other transformations. What if he gets stuck living those million years of combat and ends up developing a mindset like Paradox’s? Detached from humanity and too sane to revert back.

Now hear me out. What if Ultimate Alien X was just Alien X inverted. All of Space and Time becomes Alien X, and everyone becomes an entity similar to Bellicus and Serena. Anyone can pitch in their ideas for changes and vote for what should be decided. Like a Universal Election. Just imagine everyone together saying 10 QUADRILLIONTH MOTION CARRIED

To keep the theme of “Debate” in Alien X , I’d be funny that to access Ultimate Alien X , Ben would need to debate Celestialsapiens to allow him go Ultimate. Since the species didn’t like Ben re-creating the universe, I imagine they wouldn’t like Ben getting more powerful than them in a way that Ben could basically rule over their decisions. 💚 Maybe a multidimensional threat would make the Celestialsapiens agree to let Ben go Ultimate just this once.

The weaknesses remind me of a scene from the show 'The Flash' where Barry Allen comes up with his own artificial speed force, and in doing so hightens his other abilities beyond what they used to be, but in doing so loses his essence of being the caring person he was.

If Ben tried to create Ultimate Alien X, wouldn’t simulating the threat it underwent also end up creating it? Something dangerous enough to threaten Alien X would also probably be omnipotent, and as such it could escape the confines of the Ultimatrix

He looks exactly the same but instead of 2 consciences debating there's an entire court house inside their head because just Belicus and Serena debating over "yes" or "no" for every situation is too limited

I usually imagined Ultimate Alien X to just become a 4th-wall breaker, but this.. This makes way more sense. Becoming one with time and reality itself.

Ben Tennyson would instantly know that he is a cartoon character and the real driving forces behind his multiverse are the writer's, the animator's and the studio's ideas. Ben would also see what impact he has had over the real humans.

This made me realize I would've resonated a lot more with the finale of Ultimate Alien had it actually revolved around Ben's moral quandary of accessing Ultimate Alien X

I love this idea for an ultimate alien X. It makes complete sense for Alien X’s ultimate to have the worst drawback of any ultimate, since regular Alien X had the worst Drawback of any regular alien in Ben’s lineup. It’s taking the idea of the normal drawback of Alien X (Ben getting trapped inside because he cannot convinced Bellicus and Serena to let him out) and amping it up to make it infinitely worse (Circumventing the original drawback, but making you lose yourself entirely in the transformation). It’s the only real way to ‘improve’ Alien X since he practically has no limit beyond B&S being involved to sort of limit Ben’s abilities. I could imagine a moral dilemma for the whole Ben 10 universe, or even a whole story arc based on this. Ben is pit against a higher being bent on destroying the universe, one capable of godlike feats we can hardly comprehend beyond that they’re bad and destructive. Nothing ben or anyone else has thrown at this thing can do anything to harm it or stop it, leading to ben theorizing about ultimate X being capable of standing a chance. Obviously azmuth would probably get involved after that, basically giving ben a classic azmuth warning that while Ultimate X could fight this thing, it’s not worth the toll it would cost him. Then there’d probably be a bit of time of ben questioning whether it’s worth it or not, whether losing himself and basically becoming a god is worth saving the universe, and ultimately ending with Ben wanting permission from each of his friends before doing it, and finally leading up to the transformation and the end where the being is fought by ben in this state and erased, but ben is not ben anymore, and does not seem interested in coming back from his higher state of being. This version of Ben made the ultimate sacrifice to save the universe, making him a legendary hero until the death of the universe.

I mean, I think an ultimate Alien X is possible. His power may be limitless but the fact that other celestialsapians exist prove that Alien X can be expanded on. Now hear me out, I know this is far fetched but since the Ultimatrix simulates the evolutionary process, what if near the end of time all celestialsapians merge into one for purposes of being a ‘caretaker of the universe’ or something like that. Instead of each celestialsapian having personalities like Belakist and Sarina, each celestialsapian, and their personalities, are personality inside this combined, ultimate celestialsapian. And throughout eons of debating, the many celestialsapians have reached clarity, thinking as one. Ben would have almost no control over his actions as he is a small speck in the near infinite personalities that make up ultimate alien X. He would retain a lot of the skills Kuro mentioned but here’s the interesting part. Imagine Ultimate Alien X as an inevitable state of the celestialsapian race. As only copy of a celestialsapien can exist at a time, by turning into Ultimate Alien X, all celestial sapiens in the current timeline would cease to exist so they can exist as a part of Ultimate Alien X for the duration of the transformation. To me, I think that’s the only way to really improve Alien X. Infinite power may be cool but anyone else with unlimited power can just undo anything you do. But by removing all other entities with that power so only one combined entity can alter the universe, you hold all the power. As for a physical appearance. A humanoid form could look like normal alien x but with a bluey purple colour scheme like the forge of creation? To show that he is no longer an entity in the forge of creation, he is the forge of creation. Let me know what you think.

The idea of ben losing his moral because he becomes ultimate alien x is kinda awesome remember alien x is already op so giving a flaw like ben losing his moral and personality is kinda like a good flaw.

that feat arguably shows that ben has a a hell of a lot of willpower 9:00 as willpower is defined as "control exerted to do something or restrain impulses" that restraint to do the right thing but not go too far and remove it all at once or take away free will, is one of his most important and i feel underrated character traits