David Deutsch on the infinite reach of knowledge | The TED Interview

Published 2021-06-30
It can be easy to believe that humans are insignificant. We’re specks of dust on a random planet in a vast universe. Less powerful than elephants. Fewer than ants. But David Deutsch believes that’s all beside the point, because humans possess one unique skill: attaining knowledge. David Deutsch – Oxford professor, father of quantum computing, recluse – convinced Chris years ago to take over leadership of TED with his ideas about knowledge. In this mind-bending conversation, the two dive into his theory that the potential reach of knowledge is infinite. They explore how knowledge first developed, why it sets us apart and what all of these heady concepts really mean for our present and future.

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All Comments (21)
  • If you reject the infinite, you are stuck with the finite, and the finite is parochial... the best explanation of anything eventually involves universality, and therefore infinity. The reach of explanations cannot be limited by fiat. — David Deutsch, British physicist
  • @edwindewit2115
    Of all the material on Deutsch and his work on YouTube, this is the densest and clearest description by the man himself. Major paradigm shift!
  • @El_Diablo_12
    44:10, 47:20, 52:00 57:00 knowledge is a super power if you look at it the right way Love David Deutsch, I always come away with optimism and interesting knowledge.
  • @forrowelt
    I really don't know how many countless times I have listened to this amazing episode. Two incredibly inspiring people.
  • Thanks for this amazing interview. The world needs more people like David.
  • 19:47 “Explanations explain the seen in terms of the unseen, whereas biological knowledge, it’s only what works” 26:13 “[Explanation] explains what might happen in terms of general ideas about what can happen” 27:14 “Memes tend to evolve to breed true. That is, memes that can get themselves faithfully copied are preferred to ones that can’t … that’s their tendency” 37:16 “I think it’s extremely significant that not one of the anglosphere countries fell to a dictatorship”
  • @workingTchr
    Deutsch builds his description of the world around human experience and thought. That's what makes his analysis different from the mainstream which sees humans as just one organism among many that evolved in the world. While it's ok to put humans at the center since we ARE human and are stuck with being that way, wouldn't you like to escape that limitation of perspective as much as possible and see things objectively rather than resign yourself to living within it? I'll bet that Deutsch started down this road by not being content with the mainstream interpretation of quantum weirdness which sees it as something inherently beyond the capability of human reason to understand in the same way that we understand everyday things.
  • 16:35 Chris: "We have embarked on a journey that has potentially unlimited reach. It could lead us to literally anywhere. There is no dream that, in principle, humans couldn't dream of being part of. And maybe it's not us in the end -- it's some successor species -- but we are part of a liftoff that has no limit in principle."
  • @stegemme
    "... part of the morality of any advanced civilization would be that they would come and rescue us"
  • @Lance_Lough
    The many ads undercut the continuity of this wonderful conversation..
  • @Dave183
    We are the universe, a distinction we share with all living things, and beyond...
  • @tonysalmon4361
    I think I've spent as much time writing notes as listening to this interview. Much to ponder. Thank you for your fascinating perspective and well thought out explanations.
  • @ReflectionOcean
    By "YouSum Live" 00:00:00 David Deutsch challenges the insignificance of humans in the universe. 00:01:01 Knowledge is a potent force shaping humanity's survival and future. 00:01:46 Human ability to create new explanations sets us apart. 00:02:18 Understanding interconnected knowledge leads to breakthroughs. 00:02:48 Accessible knowledge sharing across disciplines is crucial for progress. 00:05:30 Humans possess the potential to be cosmically significant through exploration. 00:07:13 Explanatory knowledge gives humans infinite reach and influence. 00:14:02 Knowledge is information with causal power, transcending mere belief. 00:20:26 Human creativity, driven by explanatory knowledge, has universal impact. 00:22:43 Evolution of the ability to mimic and share knowledge accelerated human progress. 00:22:49 Evolution of human creativity through memes 00:23:31 Humans copy meaning, not just behavior 00:25:46 Understanding arises from copying meaning 00:27:00 Error correction crucial for knowledge advancement 00:30:00 Scientific revolution as a stable error correction system 00:37:40 Democracy as an error-correcting political system 00:41:02 Human minds' unique relationship with explanatory knowledge 00:42:20 Possibility of understanding any imaginable explanation 00:44:30 Existence of advanced civilizations in the galaxy 00:45:56 Lack of evidence for engineered galaxy structures 00:50:44 Theoretical possibility of civilizations destroying themselves 00:52:49 Importance of defending civilization against existential threats 00:52:58 Optimism through seeking knowledge and correcting mistakes 00:55:51 The role of optimism in understanding failures and seeking knowledge 00:58:03 Embracing mistakes as opportunities for learning and growth By "YouSum Live"
  • @stegemme
    are there a few clues from David Deutsch about what kind of science fiction book he intends to write