Pilot Argues About WHERE to Land

During a landing is exactly the right time for the controller to be distracting the pilot with a pointless argument.

I'm one of the pilots who's been enjoying your videos a lot. Now I see 4 bars on your shoulder, Congrats captain Kelsey 😊👍🏻

HOLY SMOKES I JUST NOTICED KELSEY HAS 4 BARS!!! Congrats CAPTAIN!!!

Thank you for mentioning that celebrities, many who never finished high school, have opinions that may have no worth at all. Just like the rest of us who have opinions in fields that we have not mastered. You’re a good guy, Kelsey.

😂 I would’ve loved hearing the pilot say “Google isn’t an FAA certified source of information” 🤣

I was an FAA Air Traffic Controler for over 20 years. You never tell a pilot how to fly his aircraft. If you want their base leg abeam the numbers, you request it. Her confrontational attitude is unprofessional and hopefully she some remedial training.

Yeah... that controller needs to call in... to her supervisor or something. she was unprofessional to bicker with him in the air. I love any time you mention Stella, that vid was so awesome. I think we would all LOVE to see another video with you 2 having adventures together. Your vids are awesome!

A controller who googles an aviation term while working the tower and then argues with a pilot while landing is a controller that needs to be taken off the line, retrained, and if necessary re-examined.

Congratulations on becoming a captain, Kelsey.

I really like Kelsey, if you look on his youtube page and his intro photo you notice that he still uses pictures when he was a F.O., also if you look the way he dresses his uniform, it is actually very simple, you just see the epaulets, no pins, no pens, no adds etc, please don't forget Kelsey is now a 747 Cpt, I think the way he presents himself says a lot about the man, very simple but 1000% professional - KELSEY IS THE MAN - Thank you Sir, we love you here in Europe

During my flight training my instructor was talking with the controller in the tower who was questioning something we were doing…short approach or something, and my instructor finally told the controller that we would fly the airplane and he should fly the tower.

The animations you've incorporated into your videos are very helpful. Thank you.

She proved that idiots are infiltrating every industry... Though I had such encounters years ago with ATC. She would've gotten a call after landing just for her attitude at such a time... Thanks for sharing, Kelsey

best quote "I am just a 7 year old stuck in this grown mans body, flying airplanes" - this is the kind of pilot I want 😅

I do love that you show how important it is to be safe first and land the plane safely then have a reasonable discussion later by phone to address the issue later when it is safer to do so

If you're into aviation this man's channel is a must subscribe. Excellent presenter with a fun yet humble personality ✈️

PLEASE Post your "old" video in it's entirety. You gave us some great pieces of it. Don't worry about the editing or the length being too long. Post it raw as you showed us!! Back me up 74 Crew... Thanks

42 year Air Traffic Controller, mainly towers with 2 military approach control. A short approach to me has been generally considered to be anywhere inside where an average aircraft of that type would turn base leg. This typically means turning base inside of a mile past the numbers, especially on short runways. I have had short approaches for a piper cup at midfield when requested. I have had a Super King Air request a short approach and take it to a mile past the numbers before base leg, especially on a short field. Taking that into consideration, If I had approved a short approach expecting a certain behavior that didn't happen, and the downwind aircraft that I am expecting to do a short approach has extended downwind so far as to affect the next arrival, I just tell the subject aircraft to "Turn Base Leg." If the pilot calls back "unable," then my next transmission would be "Unable short approach, cancel landing clearance, extend downwind, follow (type aircraft) traffic on final at 1 O'clock, (mileage) on straight in final." In other words, control your pattern, take positive action to ensure safe operations. If you want to ask any type of question, wait until the pilot is on the ground to give the tower a phone call to discuss it. If the pilot is remaining in the pattern and not doing full stop taxi backs for pattern work, I may ask the pilot to describe to me where he would normally be expected to turn when conducting a short approach to determine the best course of action in the future.

I would have LOVED to have heard the audio from that phone call. I hope it involved her supervisor. A lot of folks on Reddit claim to know who she is and are not surprised in the least. And yes, congrats on the 4 bars!

Hey Captain Kelsey - congratulations on the 4th bar. I've been watching the first officer videos for a few years, it is nice to see your dedication has paid off.