NT Wright & Tom Holland • How St Paul changed the world (Full Show)

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As an American born raised and served as a missionary of holiness, sanctification sector of Evangicalism I appreciation this much more intelligent, scolarly reasonable point of view. Having left Christianity because of the abuse and cruelty of my youth, this discussion opens a door that has been slowly opening as I hear these broader, more reasonable perspective of Christianity.

It's such a delight watching Tom Wright reacting to all that Holland is saying - he's clearly just so happy to be able to converse with someone who has the same deep appreciation for the proper study of history that he does, not to mention someone who really understands the revolutionary impact that Paul's writings had on the world. His reaction at 13:55 to Holland calling Paul a depth charge is probably my favourite response!

I could listen to these guys for another 10 hours. Excellent discussion.

These are profoundly interesting conversations to me as someone newly interested in Christianity after being raised secular. Thank you so much.

"......simultaneously, all his life is fulfilled, and all his life is shattered......" Wow. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I enjoyed this discussion for many reasons, but especially because of the kind respectfulness of all 3 men.

NT Wright is such an absolute teddybear! 🙂 As the atheist German philosopher Habermas put it a couple of decades ago, all our morality derives from the Hebrew prophets and the New Testament. Everything else is postmodern chatter.

Wow that was so incredible listening to!!! I’ve found a new interest in history after growing up quite ignorant of it. And as a Christian I’m finding out how crucial it is to know your history in order to have an appropriate perspective of the Bible and Christianity as a whole.

Current culture is almost always choosing one of three Ancient Societies to romanticize, Egypt, Greece, & Rome. What happens when you romanticize something? You air brush out all those things you hated & highlight the best points. It is the opposite of finding the reality of it. The reality of all of them is barbaric compared to modern times. Paul was dealing with people you & I would constantly be offended by, & he shows such great ethic, given by Christ. In a world where being different would get you stoned, crucified, beheaded, flayed alive, etc., it is all the more impressive. Great talk.

I sat in the library in Victoria BC reading “Paul”. I’ve been reading for the past week very slowly because I want to grasp what I’m reading. I have learned so much. Thank you. Alan

We do owe it to Paul ... and to Christianity ... but ultimately to Christ.

I'd loved NT Wright's posture was not to convert Tom but to join together in a conversation about how awesome Jesus is to work through Paul. He who is not my enemy is my friend. And through these affirming conversations it is the hope Tom falls in love with what Jesus did for him and there is no debate to him personally that Jesus is Lord.

Thank you, such wonderfully respectful conversations are all too rare.

Hi, Paul VanderKlay sent me here! And I must say this was a really interesting conversation.

I love the two “Toms” and I love Paul, too. Fascinating intellectual discussion! Understanding Christianity strictly by the human mind — bypassing the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth’s unveiling of the eyes — would probably be an impossible feat. Aren’t the eyes of the world blinded to this type of deep understanding?

Wright is such a prolific writer and is constantly speaking and lecturing and doing things like this program. And yet he finds time to read - and understand - dozens of books concurrent with all that. Such a mind.

Meeting of two sharp, intellectual minds. A rare treat. Thank you.

The anchor is so good at his work and knows so much himself ! Well done !

Tom Holland apparently is not a Christian but seems to understand better than most Christians what the cross actually means.