The Frame On Our Grand Design Momentum Is Broken! Is This The End Of RV Travel For Us?

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Published 2024-01-07
When we say this is bad, we mean this is BAD! In today’s video, we discuss why we are taking a pause on all repairs that need to be made to the RV and what our next steps will be. If you’ve been watching RV content on YouTube, you have probably seen something called frame flex being discussed a lot lately.

As recent as Illinois, we started noticing some changes happening throughout our RV that caused us concern. From walls that seem out of place, a floor that makes a popping sound when stepped on and many other minor things, we knew something wasn’t right. Well, as we made our way back to Texas, we decided to beeline it back to our home base to minimize the risk we were taking by moving the RV any more than we had to. So, we skipped our last stop, drove double the distance we had planned and got the RV parked so that we could investigate the problems further.

We contacted Grand Design, explained what was going on and were told to perform a frame flex test. We walk you through the test and show the results. We are quite shocked by what we see when we film from the inside of the RV as we lift the jacks and place the weight of the RV onto the truck. Unsure of what the future holds, we send the results to Grand Design and must wait on a reply for them on what comes next.
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All Comments (21)
  • There should be a class action lawsuit against these manufacturers. I’ve seen so many of these
  • You've shown the main reason why I say the prices for these units/rvs are not justified!!!!! And you have not neglected your RV, constantly improving and upgrading!
  • @jamesfurness2132
    I have the frame flex problem with a different manufacturer and had it fixed. 1) The fact that the problem exists with other pin boxes is not going to work for you. GenY is not approved, you fitted a non approved accessory. When I went through getting warranty I had to provide photos of the 5th wheel and pin box. Mine were stock. 2) I hope you resolve the issue with GD, but I would hate to think you get preferential treatment, all should be treated the same. 3) Lippert make the frame, GD make the aluminum structure to which the walls are attached. Frame flex is usually referred to as a weld failure in the aluminum wall, that propagates into cracks in the outer wall by, lower slide corners. If you examine the quality of aluminum welds it’s not surprising there are failures. In most cases the fix is to redo welds and some innovative fixes in the squares between aluminum structure. Lippert get unfairly blamed, GD should do a better job. Lippert would share some blame if their steel frame wasn’t to specification and movement there was placing undue stress on the wall. 4) Lippert make the frame to specifications determined by GD.
  • @karendash3274
    Sorry to hear about this design flaw…I live vicariously through your family travels and have come to realize that although I yearn for that open road and RV lifestyle, my skill set and bank account are not up to these challenges I know that you and Alicia will make the best decision for your family and finances and will continue to pray for health, happiness and joy for your family😊🙏❤️
  • @johnorens7375
    I feel the stress so much for you guys when I watch this video. I really hope GD steps up and has a solution for you guys.
  • @AZFunSeeker
    I believe I've read they will want you to jump through hoops like getting it CAT scale weighed and attempt to prove you put too much weight for the frame at some point. Hopefully they don't, but if so, we should all join together and make a big stink. I'm in!
  • I was afraid this was what you were going to find. I hope GD takes care of it for you. Looking forward to see it get resolved and you guys getting back on the road.
  • Don't waste your time with GD. Find a welding/fabrication shop and have them repair and reinforce the structure. I have been following several of you folks with this issue with Momentum rigs and its obvious that GD did a piss poor design. Another possible fix is contact Lippert directly about them repairing it. They are the ones that probably know what really needs to be done to fix and prevent further problems. Remember they only build what they are contracted to build and have no control what is done when a rig is actually built. I would also contact the federal govt listed in the owners manual as this is a safety issue.
  • @maurinemunro3317
    Holy Cow!! Thats scary! I have to admire you guys! I wouldn't be able to make this video as I'd be a crying mess!!!
  • @USNERDOC
    I am not a Grand Design owner (thankfully!). It is hard to watch your videos without feeling an incredible sense of sympathy for your predicament. There is nothing more exciting than heading out on the road full of adventure. Because of the failures and design flaws from Grand Design that dream has been stifled for you guys. Praying for a satisfactory resolution so you can get back on the road with a reliable RV. Kudos to you both for diplomatically sharing this experience. Hopefully, no one else has to go down this same path! Subscribed
  • @lizcort5047
    😢I have nothing constructive to add. Just sorry this is happening to you guys and so many. We only use our Reflection about 8 weeks a year but I suspect we aren’t immune. We’re just so glad you and your littles got home safe 🙏🏼
  • @Black-DMax0718
    That is a worst fear coming to Reality!!! Just read about another GD owner with broken frame. I have a 2021 GD Solitude and I am always monitoring the inside and outside after each trip. GD needs to step up and make this right for y'all and other owners who will experience this issue!! Will be watching for part 2
  • @Logan7P88
    Sad times 😢, I wish my fellow Texans the best of luck!
  • @gamemaster56789
    The flex on the pinbox, when you took the weight off the truck, was crazy. For me, that was the scariest part of this video. The pinbox and the surrounding frame should be the stongest part of the RV. I hope you guys can work with Grand Design to get it fixed. Love your videos. ❤
  • I’m praying for you that this will be an easy fix and that GD steps up to help guide you. I love your videos and your beautiful family!❤️🙏
  • @lauriestrung3524
    I am so sorry to hear this, I hope you get everything resolved and are back on the road in no time.
  • I live by the RV capital of the world, and my family has worked in the industry, I have made parts for the industry, the older fifth wheel trailers never had the problems like they do now, the problems start with the hitch, the older units sat on the hitch straight down, so all the weight forces were on a straight line, now they have to put on hitch extensions, now were the hitch mounts to the frame has a ton of twisting torque on it putting pressure on the whole front of the frame and by the frame mount, the only reason they changed is the trucks, it's so the trailer can be pulled with an 8 foot truck bed, also the walls help to support the frame and when you have a slide out on the sides it weakens the frame in a sense, I don't own an RV myself but knowing how they are put together and the peoples habits that build them I would build my own before buying one from a factory, my dad was also in the industry for probably 30 years and he also said that he would never buy a factory built RV, he knew too much about them.
  • @mikewadams1
    I was at the Greenville RV show yesterday and I was looking at Brinkley. And that is what I am going with. I talked to thee Grand Design rep, I asked him about the frame issues and he assured me that the issue has been resolved. I don’t believe him. Brinkley is a much better built RV. Not that they are perfect as all RV’s will have issues especially if you are full time.But the frame is a critical failure and a huge safety issue. I hope you get it resolved, from what I am seeing GD has not had a good success rate on repairing the issue. Sorry y’all have to deal with this on top of everything else.
  • @michaelsmiley15
    I'm guessing since your the 2nd owner it's probably 4 or 5 years old People on social media full time rv people newbies everyone that has bought a grand design rv 5th wheel trailer there thinking since at least COVID hit They are all complaining of the same issues It will Cost a lot of money to fix all of the problems on this rv I was hoping the these problems would pass by you guys Good luck