When Lasers aren’t fast enough: Form 3+ Speed and Quality Benchmarks!

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it boggles my mind how print time estimates still arent 100% accurate since all the movement times/exposure time variables are known factors

I miss my resin printer, but don't miss the mess. Might grab another one someday, and have been considering LCD this time. So thanks for this.

Great video comparing the ups and downs with this machine! Cannot wait for the 3rd one to come out! We had a form 2 for a while and have been eyeing the form 3, but with an army of MSLA now, I am not sure that jump will happen soon! Great to see side-by-side comparisons!

Awesome insights! Looking forward to the next video.

With new flood of affordable DLP printers are on the way I really want to see you compare them to this printer and SL1S too.

Having a Form2 and an Photon Mono, I find the engineering grade materials from FormLabs to be much more durable then the engineering grade resins I have tried for MSLA, granted the price point is so much higher for Form Resins, but the durable resins are actually quite durable, we use them in our plating and coating shops. Granted I'm always on the look out for cheaper MSLA resins currently loving the Phrozen Onyx Pro 410, but it's still not as durable as the normal Grey resin from form labs. Then getting up into the higher level durable resins and you really are getting parts that behave similar if not better then injection molded parts

Awesome video! plz keep them coming!! Great job, Thomas👍👍👍

The camera quality in this video is fantastic.

I don’t even like resin in general, but I enjoyed this video, love how you produce, also the studio lighting 👍💪🇺🇦

I own a form 2 for over three years now. Been trucking ever since. I'm hyped on part three, my thinking is: the biggest benefit is the large variety of materials, and the dialed in parameters for them. Ofc those aren't cheap...

Thomas I wholeheartedly agree with you about the software. It really feels like a complete package. Great online tools (especially once you have more than one Formlabs printer, more materials and consumables). One of the best slicers out there, the settings you need are easily understandable, and no need to fiddle with a lot of obscure advanced time per layer calibration and the like. But yeah it does run slow with bigger more intricate parts. Formlabs printers are expensive, when compared to hobbyist MSLA machines, but I personally think it's kind of like comparing apples and oranges. They are pro-sumer printers, a fine middle ground between the cheaper hobbyist printers and the super expensive (and very closed source) giant corporate printers that us mere mortals don't have access to. I wonder if you will make a video on how the little chip hack to spoof a Formlabs cartridge work? With the hack you can use all the great features of closed mode like remote start, auto-fill, level sensing and auto setting curetime, but still use cheaper third party resins.

Great use of background lighting!

The Video i was hoping for from the best 3d printing related Youtuber. Nice!

I very much appreciate the detailed look on the software side of things and the comparison to the more hobbyist range machine. The side by side comparison with the 2 figures shows the differences really well. It is not just you, the formlabs software is very slow and there's no recommended orientation. You just have to go based on your experience, and in many cases the model works completely different with a various orientations.

I'm guessing the smoother surface (than MLSA) makes it better suited for food-safe prints.

I'm using the Formlabs machines since more than 3 years. I was so often in contact with the development team to improve the time calculation and I gave them already a formula to make the time calculation for the Form 2 more accurate. But still it is as you explained :(

I wonder if MSLA could be combined with the localized tensioning of the FEP bed? Use a video of each layer to correspond to the localized tensioned area to remove the need for such drastic retractions and peel cycles.

"10/3rds of a thou" -- hah, is that Tom sneakily trolling the freedom units? :)

The Form 2's didn't last long at the local makerspace because of the chipped vats and cartridges. The pins would get damaged from mishandling and resin would coat the contacts and it wouldn't read. You could use them in "open mode" but we just got elagoo mars instead and even replacing the $50 LCDs and FEP every month from members breaking them was still cheaper than one liter of resin from formlabs. This machine is definitely geared towards the more money than sense business customers.