Birmingham's New £60m Railway Project: A Look At The Camp Hill Line
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Published 2024-02-23
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All Comments (21)
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Bourneville was and is the site of the Cadbury (now Modelez UK) factory. Bourneville was in fact established as a Model Village by Cadbury in 1893.
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This video popped up on my Youtube this evening. How interesting. I applaud your video and the detail in it. I respect the effort I am a Brummie born in Acocks Green who taught in Hendon and Whitefield School next to Brent Cross North West London for 5 years before returning home. I have lived in Stirchley for 43 years and taught in Kings Norton for 21 years. This video really is interesting and reflects the fascinating history of this part of Birmingham. Some helpful local pronunciation corrections: 1/ river Ray not Ree. 2/ Bordesley not Bordersley (I am a Birmingham City season ticket holder and we use this station after games for a quick connection to town.) 3/ Moseley not Moserley. I voted for Pineapple because Bournville station (which I use a lot) is right next door to Stirchley high street. And a more relevant point: connections between rail and bus in the West Midlands means 2 tickets and double cost. A unified ticketing system is needed for this to make sense. A visit to Prague, which I do often, is a typical example of how to do it right.
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An interesting presentation. It does appear to be a cost cutting exercise to avoid electrifying the Camp Hill line. W.r.t. to the comment that the tunnel near Moseley is too tight for the overhead line, note that some sections being electrified north of Cardiff are being dealt with using long neutral sections to avoid excessive work on tunnels, in particular Caerphilly Tunnel, or on certain overbridges.
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University Station is a modern addition. There were Somerset Road and Church Road stations between Selly Oak and Five Ways. The original line was single track and went to Central Goods station before the Five Ways station was constructed and the line extended to New Street as a new station alongside the existing one.
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Really great video thank you! St Nicolas' Church, King's Norton is also where Wilbert Awdry served as a curacy during WW2. Whilst there, he created and wrote the first stories featuring Edward, Gordon and Thomas the Tank Engine.
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Thank you ever so much for such a wonderful video and all the research you had to do to get it to such a high standard. I grew up in Birmingham and lived there in various suburbs for most of my adult life (although I live outside the UK now), so it was fantastic to see how much change has happened and is happening to the Birmingham I knew and love so well. Know intimately so many of those locations you featured (the first house I ever bought was in Bournville - old Mrs. Cadbury lived at the end of our road at the time; perhaps I should say that I lived on Mrs. Cadbury's road). Thank you again for such a enthralling (to an ex-Brummie) video; you took me back in time so often and I relived many brilliant times (esp in what is now known as the "Balti Triangle") through your visuals. The no. 11 bus route is the longest urban stage carriage service in Europe, as far as I know (loved hearing you reel off the names of some of the suburbs it passes through) but I could be wrong; no doubt someone more knowledgeable of these matters will correct me if I am. Subscribed, obviously.
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Discovered your channel today, already love your videos! Subscribed! :-)
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My Aunt and Uncle use to live in King's Norton and I remember seeing the disused platforms there.There's quite a few freight only lines around the Birmingham conurbation and I have been down many of them on diverted passenger trains during track work.
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As I recall, there is no platform 6 at Moor St (the UK's best railway station!) it's just a track but I suppose they could tack some new platform on there. As much as I think this is a good idea, it won't be until the cords to Moor St open that you'll really see the value of the line as it takes on intercity services. Electrification would have been good and maybe battery operated trains could be used to bridge the gap through that tunnel in the same way that the trams have to rely on batteries for unnelectrified sections.
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This was a great video. I love this video. Very educational.
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New Street station it should be said besides being a major west Midlands hub is actually the busiest rail station outside London, as the Cross City is (at least pre Pandemic) the busiest Urban Rail system out side London.
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Nice little YouTube recommend this is, you got yourself a new sub! Great video 😉 I will add though, Bournville is the name of the village that Cadbury's created for their workers and families and is the reason the station carries the name.
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I love how the front page photo is Nuneaton and there is a Camp Hill in Nuneaton
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Thank you for this video. Those platforms at Kings Norton are disused through platforms used by freight trains and Cross Country expresses. The reduction from 6tph to 4 tph was the Covid timetable not to accommodate the Camp Hill trains. The River Rea is pronounced Ray. Kings Norton Station is in Cotteridge but probably only locals know that. The idea of diverting East Midlands trains into Moor Street was to give a connection to HS2 as Moor Street is right next to Curzon Street Station and the concourses will be connected by a footbridge. Andy Street is a metro mayor of the West Midlands not a city mayor. Have seen one of your London videos yesterday and have now clicked Subscribe.
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Great information about my area. I live in Kings Norton and i have never once used the train station in Kings Norton and probably never will. Unless you live near the train station then they are pointless. I'd need to get the bus or taxi just to get a train.
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I live in the kings norton area and it is my local station (lifford would be slightly closer), to access any of the stations mentioned is a 30 minute walk (minimum) for me, most people drive so where will they be able to park their vehicles; if there is no parking there will be reduced usage. If the is cark parking; how much will this cost....
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I travel from Worcester to Birmingham Bordesley station for football machis we already stop at 9 stations its 1h 20m we don't need more stops. If the train is not stopping at Bordesley station it goes to Small Heath station from ether one of thongs, stations I can get to the match in 5m If they are getting rid of Bordesley station what happens to Small Heath station has there isn't any other connecting station from Birmingham. I hope it will go directly to Small Heath station from Moor Street otherwise, it's a 30m walk.
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The reopening of this line has been studied several times before 2005, and the case was very weak, mainly becouse a lot of jounneys on the 50 were short distance ones. All it is likely to do is take longer journeys off the highly successful bus routes. A lot of cars on this road have come from further down the corridor, and if they dont use the cross city line, they wont use this one.
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Another resurection plan !!!! This has been on the back burner since the line was closed to passengers. I've heard so many times this was to happen. Should never have closed in the first place. Seeing is believing. Nonetheless a great presentation. 👍👍👍👍
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I always thought it was pronounced as Moseley, not Moserley. Correct me if I'm wrong. Very interesting presentation, I only know Birmingham as a visitor.