The BEST, and most HATED Uber in The Battle Cats...

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(I made the smol Mitama and some touchups to the Dasli)

00:00 Intro
01:20 Mighty Lord Gao
05:20 Mitama the Oracle
11:30 Epicfest: S.Gao & G.Mitama
17:20 The Two Meowsketeers
22:10 Kasli the Scourge
32:40 Kasli the Bane...
50:10 Why is this even a problem

Musics:
Casino Cabernet - TEVI OST
   • 35.) Casino Cabernet || Tevi Original...  
Chase Chase - TEVI OST
   • 5.) Chase & Chase || Tevi Original So...  
Rabi Rabi Shop - Rabi Ribi OST
   • Rabi Rabi Shop (feat. Triodust)  
Natural Aquarium - Rabi Ribi OST
   • Natural Aquarium (feat. 3R2)  
Gothera Swamplands - TEVI OST
   • 33.) Gothera Swamplands || Tevi Origi...  
System Interior II - Rabi Ribi OST
   • System Interior II  
Blushwood - TEVI OST
   • 29.) Blushwood || Tevi Original Sound...  

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All Comments (21)
  • @LucasIVYT
    Picture myself like that one scene where Thanos goes to rest and watch the sunrise after the snap EDIT: Oh crap the dasli killed my grandma bit made a bunch of the pop SFX desynced at the end LMAO I'M SORRY I THOUGHT I REVIEWED THAT okay please just ignore that
  • @liampim6468
    Imagine having an entire sub trait designed to counter you, only for you to still be absolutely broken
  • @ChillholaCh
    You'r not the only one who cook 1+ hour in past month ya know
  • There is a sort of irony to all of this. Mitama, the chosen servant of Cat God himself being blessed with a fun yet balanced kit making her seen as the best of the best, and making her loved by all, as if she was a gift of the gods. while Kasli, being shunned from the dark and cruel society she was born in due to her curse. She grew up in a world that despised her, and because she never received the love, kindness and peace she deserved she let her hatred take over, giving her a unbalanced game breaking and brainless kit that led to everyone hating her, all because she became the monster they all said she would be.
  • @LordMarkiquad
    The long awaited Dasli essay has dropped... ALSO THAT MY MOOTS ART IN THE THUMBNAIL!!! Big dub to Zaku!
  • @miguelanjo2776
    Dasli is really bad and should be removed. Until i get her that is. If that happens, then shes an amazing balanced unit that should be buffed even more
  • @XskullDrSkull
    I personally find Battle Cats to be becoming too easy nowadays and units like this being introduced is definitely one of the biggest reasons why I feel that way. Strategy is put second to scale, gameplay and stats have devolved to “big number vs big number” game. I know this was starting to become a problem years ago, but stage strategy has become more linearized/ formulated by using X cat to counter X enemy, especially when we’re at a point where everything in the game is powercrept and every type of stage archetype has been exhausted from the years this game has been around. Dasli was definitely the start of when this game shifted in its design philosophy. The standard for both stages and cats have grown in power almost exponentially which has created more unhealthy units like Uril true form and ultra forms. It just feels too much in a game that wants to be more simple.
  • Do you think that this happens because of the differences between JP and Global mindset? I feel like it's only us who whines about the game balance or shit while the JP players straight up embracing the brokenness. They always use anything that's broken. They have no problem with Ultra Talents or Ultra Form. And there is also cases where they just boost their Ubers to +69 simply because they want and can. I even watched someone spent 10k CatFood for Dasli. JP Players generate easy money and naturally PONOS will design their units that will satisfy them.
  • @Z.4.K.U
    Thank you for commissioning me to work on the thumbnail! ❤ It was a huge opportunity :)
  • @Pudding404
    To put in perspective, I personally don't have Dasli, but I do have Blue Eye'd Asuka, which is basically a dasli with worse stats, less curse uptime, different immunities and colossus slayer, and she still absolutely wipes most stages. Completely worth the wait for this. You always explain these so well, Lucas.
  • @ksawerx9277
    You know how back in the shadow gao days people used to use "uber-carried" as an insult, and showed off by beating tough stages without gatcha units? We should bring this back but call it "dasli carried", and show off by beating stages with generally "underpowered" ubers.
  • @newto2794
    Lucas, I'm truly enjoying this shit. Love the format, the narrative, the niche of being a Battle Cats historian of sorts... you probably can't cook many more videos with this format, but I'm sure every single one of them is going to be this good of a delight!!
  • 51:47 this is the problem with Dasli and what I believe is the only problem about her, when it comes to a point where a unit invalidates literally 70% of this game's gacha content I can understand why it's hated, it's also the problem that many other cats face such as Courier for literally being god, best anti-behemoth best anti-red one of the best "mid-range" rare cats and how it literally murders early game. I think at one point people hated Octo too because of how he invalidated actually challenging and somewhat fun wave stages but PONOS adapted to it by changing wave stages design. with that being said, I disagree on the "pay to get" point because it's genuinely easy to get any Uber you want in this game, you get Platinum ticket in CotC 3, Aku Realms and after every clear of a full SOL/UL story, not to mention the Gauntlet stages. If you "want" Dasli, you aren't gonna spend money on the silly cat game, you're gonna get down, grind Platinum Ticket (I'm aware it can be bought, I want to explain how to get her without paying) and use seed tracking for this opportunity. Ultimately it does bash into another one of your points, people grinding to exclusively get Dasli and steamroll the game, therefore going back into the criticism, at least it's not early game amirite? :p I'm aware you could count seed tracking as cheating, that is the whole reason why I try and stir away from it, this is a gacha game so... **GAMBLE**. Like others said, I think it's fine to seedtrack once you're very into the game, 5 or 6 months or just as soon as the endless gambling gets tiring, me personally I'm just gonna suffer and try and get her from Epicfest. also if you hate Dasli because "invalidates literally anything that is in a similar class as her" I'd say that Phonoa is in the same boat if not worse, strongest sniper uber in the game with one or two enemies that effectively counter him and appear often enough to do their jobs, having one single flaw that being traitless, I'd argue Phono is even more annoying because there is no real way of countering the guy, he doesn't rely on anything but stats and LD (nice one PONOS, can't wait for you to release the 900 range ZL boss next update to counter phonoa). even after this long ah comment, I don't want to give off the wrong idea. I agree with most you said in this video. 56:08 "special grade curse-" Jujutsu Kaisen in Battle Cats?!?!?11?
  • @Frozen_Kirby
    "First we need to talk about parallel universes" genuinely scared me, I thought I was going on another 6-hour long study session on battle cats quantum physics 😭
  • @StanleyG23
    Are you the strongest because you're Dasli or are you Dasli because you're the strongest?
  • @BoopaKing
    Being a Fate/Grand Order player she seems kind of similar to Artoria Caster (from now on referred to as Castoria), with the only difference being that Castoria is a "defensive" support unit. In FGO you kind of have 3 different "levels" of defensive invulnerability and pierce buffs, with Evasion being pierced by Sure Hit, and Invulnerable being pierced by Pierce Invulnerable (which also pierces Evasion). Castoria is the only unit in the entire game who can give the team "Anti-purge Defense" which is completely and absolutely unpierceable. This led to a team archetype called "Immortal Comp" which consists of Castoria (mandatory), secondary gauge support (Merlin, Lady Avalon, Miyu), and Overcharge support (Himiko, Reines, Morgan) The idea is that Castoria's Anti-purge Defense gives you one hit of invulnerability per level of Overcharge on her Noble Phantasm (super attack), up to 5 hits to each party member over 3 turns at Overcharge level 5. With the extra gauge generated per turn from the gauge support, you can get enough charge to use every team member's Noble Phantasm in a chain every three turns, which leaves you with at least level 4 Overcharge, 5 if you're using Himiko. When the enemy at most gets to attack three times per turn and most of the time attacks only one target, that leaves you with an overall of 15 potential hits of unpierceable invincibility over 9 attacks from the enemy, which is refreshed every three turns. This team setup can beat every single fight in the game that doesn't have excessive buff removal, without taking any form of damage throughout the whole thing. And any damage you do end up taking is going to be healed away by your gauge support, since all of them are primarily healers. You can't even get stopped by debuffs or buff block because Castoria's Noble Phantasm is also a full debuff cleanse for the team. The only drawback is that you're using three supports, and thus you're dealing relatively low damage (unless you swap Himiko for Morgan who gives overall 4 hits of invul per ally in exchange for being an actual DPS) so the battle will last for quite a while. She's pretty unanimously agreed upon to be the absolute strongest unit in FGO and the developers' biggest mistake from a gameplay standpoint. And that's not even mentioning what her skills do. To put it into perspective: The Immortal Comp I just talked about will usually finish a difficult quest in about 40-50 turns. The average clear time of most quests when you use your own Castoria, a friend's Castoria, and a DPS... Is about 3-4 turns. Maybe 10 for super difficult quests.
  • @BvKasa
    Amazing video man! I completely agree with you. The main reason of why I hate her is, as you mentioned in the video, the fact that she outclasses 90% of ubers and gives little to no spotlight to slightly under average units. I also thought you were going to mention Asukasli, she may not be as strong as Dasli but she still is a problem. Her similar DPS, basically doubles the damage and skips the part of staking multiple Dasli at the beginning of a stage. BUT WAIT FOR PAPALUGA'S TALENT HELL YEAH MAN CAN'T WAIT FOR HIM TO RECIVE LV. 69 SURGE AND 100% DODGE AGAINST EVERY ENEMY (he is probably going to get KB resist and 2s slow)
  • @NauticusGD
    Could not agree more lol. Just finished IDI, and the first problem with that is that I used esoteric uril (gained via dasli). I already broke my progression, and there's no way to go back. Then when I start UL again, I find my self using dasli for everything. Even puffington, which Idi was supposed to counter. When you asked what Ubers I use besides dasli, it's kinda just the top 4 best, and windy. Dasli broken but I like watching enemies die
  • @goatcheese303
    Seeing my friend breeze through floor 30 with Dkasli without even realizing it was a special stage made me genuinely sad. I remember spending all night trying to best that stage and near the end my heart rate would spike but I would have to keep focus because one simple mistake could end me. Now it’s just Dkasli go brrr
  • @misterhappy444
    It's honestly relieving to hear that a ton of players miss the strategy aspect of the game like me. I didn't really care much for dasli as there was still cool content on the side to play and discuss. It feels like battle cats has turned into this game of "own as many powerful units as you can" and there's nothing wrong with that, it first made me believe we were going to get more crazy and interesting stages. But when they release a spammable unit with the waterblast ability and the best they can manage is your average metal seal level and legit only metal cyclone and puffington that can be beaten by talented lolly alone if you want to. That's where I truly lost hope.