Are Vegetarians Healthier than Omnivores? A Soho Forum Debate

The best way to decide the winner, is to try both diets.. I eat fatty meat, i feel good, strong and full. I eat vegetables (Specifically green) and fruit, i feel bloating pain, cramps, I'm hungry have to eat all the time. Based on my own experience, Nina made me better, Kartz made me fart.. Nina won!!!

I’ve been carnivore for 2 years and it was the best decision I ever made regarding my health. I’ll never go back to eating any other way.

If eating meat/dairy is so bad, then why, after switching from whole grain fresh veg and no processed food, to low carb high fat ketogenic diet, did my health improve? 58 y/o female...allergies-gone. Arthritis-gone. Non alcoholic fatty liver disease-gone. Type II diabetes-gone. Sleep better. Energy better. Running 6 miles a day. So, I wasn't eating crap before the switch and the changes occurred after.

Dr Katz: almost all drug research is industry funded. And therein lies one of the biggest problems in medicine today.

I'm four years too late, but Nina rocked this. Her performance aged well.

His oxygen comparison for the anti nutrient question is absolutely ridiculous. We have NO OTHER CHOICE but to breathe oxygen to survive. We DO have other choices than eating nothing but plants foods for nutrients 🤦‍♀️ very basic stuff. How did this dude even get a doctors degree? He literally ended off the answer with “who gives a damn?!” What the hell kind of answer is that?!

Carnivore 3 years. 51 year old male. Never felt better.

I used to be vegetarian, but now I’m Presbyterian

I've been a carnivore now for thirty-two years. I don't have to take supplements or extra vitamins. I'm now seventy-two and healthy.

I just looked this up. The Lyon study was only done in France. This study was seriously flawed as well. The control group's initial dietary intake was not measured, only assumed. Approximately half of the control group was not present during the final assessment either.

We need more debates like this. We definitely need more Ninas to expose the lies we have been fed by the big corpos and earth worshipers.

I'm reading comments here that Teicholz appearance has deteriorated over the last few years, and she is haggard. Are you all insane? The woman is 54 years old and looks great for someone who is 54.

IMO, when Katz in his conclusion raised the environmental impact argument, which he agreed to not bring up as part of this debate, he should have been disqualified. Not allowing Teicholz any opportunity to respond to that claim was unfair, and raising arguments they'd agreed to leave out indicates Katz's dishonesty as I see it.

The guy seems to ramble without identifying fact. The girl seemed to clearly Identify holes in the guys argument. She wins

When you show up to a public debate, you have already agreed to the proposition. To stand up there and whine about it is like the undergraduate who didn’t read the syllabus, then tries to wheedle extra points on the exam because she ‘tried really hard’. Katz is defending the affirmative position that science shows veganism/vegetarianism to be a superior diet. His bullshit statement that Teicholz has to ‘prove there is no evidence’ is shifting the burden of proof. She has already put forward the statements from major dietary guideline committees, whose members are known to be veggie-friendly but who could find no high quality scientific data comparable to traditional meaty diets. Katz loses the debate automatically if he can’t show quality evidence. This is a debate on the science, not on which diet makes Katz happy. And, he’s an asshole, which makes him a loser as a human as well as a scientific fraud.

Katz behaved poorly throughout . Even at the end he was ready to avoid shaking hands if possible, but Nina made it impossible for him. She certainly came across better. He had no class.

What we are eating in these modern times which we didn't 100 years ago are: chemical additives as in preservatives, plastics, pesticides, hybrid concentration of glutens in bread. Obviously it isn't a vegan verses meat issue here, its whole food versus - tainted foods (which includes tainted meats)

I’ve been listen to Katz for 10 minutes and all he has done is condescendingly parse the resolution 😅😅

Dude spent his first 10 minutes complaining about being at a “disadvantage” and saying absolutely nothing. He’s going on and on and on. Nothing nothing nothing.

Katz conflicts of interest are pretty damning, I don't understand how anyone can take him seriously.