Did Livyatan REALLY Hunt Megalodon?

10,189
23
2024-07-16に共有
Time for a belated Shark Week video!
REFERENCES:

www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.abm9424 - Cooper et al 2022
www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.abl6529 - O. megalodon trophic level
www.app.pan.pl/archive/published/app66/app00820202… - Lee Creek Physeteroid
www.vliz.be/imisdocs/publications/ocrd/212617.pdf - Livyatan original description
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4541548/ - Megalodon average size and geography
2dgf.dk/xpdf/bull32-01-02-1-32.pdf - Large megalodon vertebral centra
palaeo-electronica.org/content/2024/5079-megalodon… - Elongated megalodon
www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02724634.2018.… - Lee Creek Physeteroid lifespans
www.researchgate.net/profile/Sara-Citron/publicati… - Orcinus citoniensis
etd.adm.unipi.it/t/etd-11142019-001949/ - Orcinus citoniensis ecology
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2… - Sharks eating physeteroids

Of all the predators ever to prowl our planet's oceans, few can hold a candle to Otodus megalodon and Livyatan melvillei in terms of pure size and power. And not only did these titans exist; they existed at the same time! How their inevitable interactions would have played out is a topic many have discussed, and it's not uncommon to see people suggesting that Livyatan outright preyed on O. megalodon. But could this be a step too far? What evidence is there to support this, if any? Let's find out!

Music:

Teller of the Tales by Kevin MacLeod
Link: incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4467-teller-of-the-t…
License: filmmusic.io/standard-license

Midnight Tale by Kevin MacLeod
Link: incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4710-midnight-tale
License: filmmusic.io/standard-license

Suonatore di Liuto by Kevin MacLeod
Link: incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4440-suonatore-di-li…
License: filmmusic.io/standard-license

Village Ambiance by Alexander Nakarada
Link: filmmusic.io/song/6586-village-ambiance
License: creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

コメント (21)
  • I did a bit of fiddling around with the audio on this video. Let me know if it seems like an improvement from that of previous uploads! Also for whatever reason, the music sounds significantly louder in this video in spite of being quieter in editing.
  • The trust between that man and spider is something to behold
  • I love how you actually used and referenced isotope studies, which are often overlooked in megalodon matchups.
  • Bro is just casually starting off the video with a whole ass spider on his face and he hasn’t broken script or even flinched. What a guy 😂
  • Also, regarding Orcas hunting Greate Whites, it should be noted that most Orcas don't actually go out of their way to actively hunt Great White Sharks. Rather, most of the time, the two species prefer to leave each other the hell alone. It's very rare for an Orca to decide they like the taste of Great White meat enough to go out of their way to hunt them. TL;DR: Most Orcas don't hunt Great Whites, the two species as a whole don't have a predator-prey relationship.
  • As a shark YouTuber and prehistoric enthusiasts, this is THE best take on the subject I've seen to date. Most people think nature is like a cinematic movie with 2 big creatures battling to the death for pride and glory. The reality is that rarely do animals get in an all out fight. All I'll say on this topic is that Livyatan was a big and formidable whale. But megalodon was a whale killer. Megaldon was smart too. Fantastic video.
  • Man, when you said “fucking idiots” when I am used to a calm and professional voice, it caught me like a naked mole rat. Not to say this is bad, but this is funny as fuck.
  • When it comes to adult specimens, I feel like Livyatan and Megalodon would spend more time avoiding each other then trying to hunt or pick fights. If two adults did go for a tussle, it would be either a territorial dispute, one of the individuals involved was already sick/injured and the other saw them as a target, or in general just desperate and adopting a "fuck it we ball" survival strategy because the other option is starvation. Yknow, situations that happen today in places where two apex predators that share food sources sometimes overlap with each other on occasion. But more than anything. I just kinda hate what I call the "Kaijufication" powerscaling of Paleo Critters in general. The same kind of mentality that leads to people rejecting the idea of feathered dinosaurs or lipped therapods because "DINOSAURS ARE COOL KAIJUDRAGONS, NOT STUPID PUSSIFIED CHICKENS!", or bemoaning how recent size re-estimates of critters like The Dunk or Anomalocaris that make them Smaller Than Before is the greatest slight on one's person because how dare science make our prehistoric beasties "uncool". And then this leads to the contrarian other end where you have the people that are like "Actually T.Rex definitely looked like a chubby chickadee IRL and the stupid paleoartists are just shrinkwrapping and defeathering them to appeal more to the folks who can't get over their childhood Jurassic Park toys" (T.Rex's feathering would look a lot more like the peachfuzz hair on an African Elephant than like, a full flocked Peafowl coat). Animals can't just exist to exist and be cool and awesome fellas in their own right. They gotta be Pokemon Proxies or something. And this is also certainly not helped by how much PaleoContent tends to fall into this "March of Progress Battling Dynasties" narrative of Vertebrates vs Arthropods/Inverts, Synapsids vs Sauropsids, Dinosaurs vs Mammals and other such guff. tldr; 8/8 gr8 vidya m8
  • I like this guy. I like the lack of sugar coating on his delivery. The willingness to poke at the trolls is also very respectable. Glad I found the channel
  • Bro knows how to catch someones attention. I have to say the spider is an awesome touch.😂
  • I honesty prefer the idea of two massive apex predators that rule the sea together rather than trying to make sure one is superior to the other. Also, as a reminder, Livyatan is known from significantly less remains (one skull and a couple of teeth) than the millions of Megalodon specimens out there. There is a possibility that there may be an exceptionally large Livyatan specimen around 20m that we have yet to find. If this hypothetical specimen were real, it could also be used to prove against comparing Orcas and White Sharks to Livyatan and Megalodon due to Livy and Meg being the same size.
  • Don't know if you notice, but there's something on your face
  • @DS-dr1zf
    got to say i love that you use swear words man, really refreshing
  • Leave it to the weird bug guy on YouTube to make one of the best videos on these two on YouTube.
  • 7:37 Remember, that, unlike megalodon, leviathan is known for the single skull, which is unlikely to represent the max size for the spices
  • Hyping up giant prehistoric animals to fight each other is always such a stupid thing. The risks that come with hunting something the same size as yourself is so high that no animal would take it unless they were seriously starving or the animal they're attacking is already badly injured
  • @Audfile
    Livyathan is still alive in the Mariannas Trench.
  • Ok, so that picture of Livyatan and Megalodon near the end of the video (time stamp 17:47) where the two of them are out of the water facing each other with their mouths agape, looks like they both stubbed their toes on the same rock and are both yelling in pain.... that's a nasty rock....