The Most Brutal Loss in Classic Tetris History

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Published 2023-03-31

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  • @aGameScout
    Quick clarification on the odds presented in the video since there's been some understandable confusion in the comments over whether the math is correctly applied (i.e. Sidnev and Tristop are above average players, it's a semifinals match, etc.) - there's a difference between trying to predict what's the most likely outcome in a given moment with as much context as possible, and trying to show how rare something is across the entire historical record. For example, if I made a weather video about Death Valley, I might say something in it like "There's only been 5 times in the past 110 years where it's been over 130 degrees F. Thus, the chance of any given day being over 130 F there is an insane 1 in 8,030!" Someone could say in response, "That's not true. You'll never get that temperature in the winter, so you should only count summer days. And you should throw out cloudy days too since the sun can't shine at it's full potential there. So you see, in sunny days in the summer, it's not quite so rare as that!" Those would be relevant things to consider if you were planning a trip to Death Valley tomorrow and wanted to know the chances of a 130 F day - you'd check the calendar on what the typical temperature is at this time of year, and look at the forecast to see if it's an overcast day. But it's also completely different from what I was originally saying when I'm talking about how rare 130 F days are in that location across all of history. Similarly, when talking about Tristop and Sidnev's match, I'm not talking about how rare it would be for them to lose with these scores specifically against each other, I'm talking about how rare it would be to see a loss with these scores if you were to watch all the games in the past several months of Master's Event, which is already an incredibly elite set of matches (same as how Death Valley is already an incredibly hot place to talk about weather!)
  • "Except...this video isn't about Tristop. This video is about Sidnev." I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THIS PLOT TWIST
  • @svnestris5495
    Videos like these is what got me into this game, feels surreal being in one. ❤
  • The mere fact that back in 2018, 4 years ago, tetris ends in level 29. and today, it BEGINS at level 29 speaks volume to the dedication and skill the players have attained through this decades old game
  • @Sidnev
    Scout video about a match of mine, I have truly peaked
  • @Berg8793
    Your storytelling is impeccable. The reveal at 13:41 completely blew me away, I was not expecting that at all!
  • @pumpyheart
    That super killscreen is pretty nifty. Love the return of the pace stat! Excellent video as always Scout. You bring out the brightest moments in the community in every vid!
  • @3RR0R415
    Sidnev is a great friend of mine, watching that first match was an edge of seat experience, even told them "you just swept someone who b3b 1.3'ed", Tristop played so well, but somehow Sidnev was always one step ahead. the second match was heartbreaking though.
  • @BramCohen
    It's fair to say that SV had leveled up his skills and earned this win
  • I mean the issue with this math is that Tristop played against the same opponent 3 times in a row and he also played against a semi-finalist
  • I think the math is a little bit incorrect. In 16:10, CMIIW the odds of 1 in 11904 was probably taken from (1-0.58)*(1-0.99)*(1-0.98) = 0.42*0.01*0.02. The 0.42*0.01*0.02 part is the probability of SV loses in all 3 games (using the product rule, assuming the probability of each match was considered independent, i.e. ignoring fatigues and tension from the previous games and stuff). Scout argues that the probability of any player beats SV in a sweep is, indeed 0.42*0.01*0.02, because SV loses in all 3 games means the opponent pulls of a sweep. However, we are calculating the probability, or how rare of Sidnev experiencing this tragic lost; not Sidnev pulling a sweep against SV's score. What should be done is to plug Sidnev's score to the formula above, and we will get 0.61*0.39*0.16 = 0.04. This mean, during the past 3 months, Sidnev has 4% of getting swept by other player with those score. This is actually the value that we want! We can also see that 4%, or 1 in 25 odds, are not that "tragic" compared to 1 in 11904. I'm here only to mention where the math in this video is incorrect. It's only an educational comment. Obviously, congrats to SV for being the champion of CTM, and I still think losing against 1 in 25 odds is tragic. Hopefully Sidnev can become champion in the next CTM, because he definitely deserves it <3
  • It would be cool if the tournament shows the current percentage next to the scores next to the finals. Like a 100% score would mean it's currently the highest score in the tournament.
  • Incredible video, such a good story and the way it’s presented makes it even better.
  • @stevemelo
    As always, another fantastic video @aGameScout Thank you for all you do for the classic Tetris community!
  • @titopaul9299
    Really loved the twist at the end of this video. Such great storytelling and an amazing narrative arc. Nailed it!
  • @Motosapien46
    Scout, you are a shining star of this community! We are so lucky to have you breaking down matches and stats like this!
  • Can we just appreciate though how SV picked up the ball and ran with it to the end? Pulling off that kind of W is honestly impressive. Hope Sidnev and Trist get their own Ws soon though, they seem like excellent players in their own right.