Comparing Top Overlay VPN Networks: Tailscale, Netbird, Netmaker, Zerotier

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Published 2023-12-28
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Chapters
00:00 Comparing Overlay VPN Networks Tailscale, Netbird, Netmaker, Zerotier
02:16 What is an Overlay VPN
03:47 Comparing Tailscale Netbird Netmaker Zerotier and Twingate
08:34 A Detailed Look at Tailscale and Netbird features
11:15 Self Hosted Netbir

All Comments (21)
  • @SE-161
    thank you for the great video. I used Tailscale in the past but switched to Netbird for many reasons. You already mentioned a lot already. For me there is one killa-feature and that is, that the company behind NetBird a German company so they have to stick to the GDPR. I love it!
  • @Reducer
    Timely vid! I've dabbled with Tailscale, primarily because they have a good Terraform module, but I have yet to actually do stuff with this other than testing accessing my home setup from the office. Will check out alternatives.
  • @tjsimsgm
    Been running netbird from v0.6.0 and it’s great it’s come along way and it’s been extremely stable, the addition of IOS and Android has been amazing
  • @chrisumali9841
    Thanks for the demo and info. I am using Twingate, but will try Netbird. Have a great day
  • @PowerUsr1
    My only issue with Tailscale is the ACL syntax isn’t clear from the documentation. The default is a permit any which isn’t great and it doesn’t integrate with firewall rules in pfsense the way ZeroTier does with opnsense. I’m not writing json rules for ACL…there needs to be a better way to do it and clearer documentation
  • @bltavares
    I haven't found anything similar to ZeroTier's 6PLANE addressing for container based routing. It's especially useful as it makes use of IPv6 NDP emulation for finding the shortest route between container. I haven't found any Wireguard-based solution similar yet, but I guess it would not be as seamless as zerotier automatic adressing
  • @randomnoobpt
    Opened this video exactly because I was made aware of Twingate, but the content I find is sponsored. Will be trying netbird, seems really easy to get things done and should be enough for my needs
  • @Mikesco3
    Totally appreciate your channel!
  • @sagarsriva
    I use both zerotier and tailscale on same machines. They work together! zerotier and tailscale also work on my openwrt router
  • @taoi11
    Would love to see a follow up to this of the performance of these networks. simple speed tests even.
  • very very nice disclosure at beginning. no sponsor here. by the way, nothings bad about sponsorship, I trust some youtubers and also with sponsor it's ok, but knowing before is a great choice. Thanks, now I can ssee the rest of the video.
  • Tailscale with headscale as coordination server works very well for me. I would like to test netbird but currently it lacks some features that are important for me. E.g. exit nodes (will be available in march) and dual stack networking with IPv4 and IPv6. These features are already running fine with Tailscale and headscale. GoodiesHQ is currently working on an ACL UI Builder which will be integrated into the open source Admin-UI. Interesting times to come :)
  • @DaveHart-G
    Is there any guidance on the horsepower required for the machines doing the wireguard encryption / decryption to ensure that this does not limit transfer rates.
  • @CristianHeredia0
    Curious as homelaber , running pfsense+WireGuard, when would it make sense to use netbird?
  • ZeroTier is also available for ASUStor NAS devices, OPNsense, and even some retro gaming handheld custom firmwares like ArkOS.
  • @JamieStuff
    I've been a happy Tailscale user for quite some time, and have considered going the Headscale route. However, I may well give Netbird a try. (That's what homelabs are for, right?)
  • @kofteistkofte
    I've been using Tailscale for a while. Their ACL syntax does require a bit getting used to but does the job really well. But their error messages when I mess up could be better. But after this video, Netbird peaked my intrest. I might try it with a test environment sometime.
  • @DarkNightSonata
    is the "Exit Node" feature on the roadmap in Netbird ? I think that is a very important feature to have, or at least its a more common usecase. hopefully it is, because netbird looks very promising.
  • @jackthibo7644
    Thanks so much for this video! I'm really excited about netbird, as I haven't seen yet an open source solution which you can easily self host. I just wonder what security aspects you got to look out for, such as separating directories of the DB files and the web server fikes etc. looking forward to Your video about netbird!! Shame is, that zerotier and any other wire guard based solution, doesn't work great.... Tinkered a lot with excluding IP ranges from zerotier, but still doesn't seem to work alongside.....