Why Are There So Many Churches?

2013-07-13に共有
Music: John Williams [Main Theme Star Wars]
Sorry to anybody who was offended

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  • The thing that I respect about the Catholic Church is the fact they have a hierarchy, Pope, Cardinal, Priest and that is why they are no division in the Catholich Church.  
  • WOW! This is CLASSIC! WELL DONE JAMES WALLACE! I couldn't stop laughing! Kudos! Keep these videos coming!
  • @MartinG200
    I've thought about the contradictions between the denominations. This video not only spells out those divergences but also does so with creativity. The music definitely flows with the content.
  • Very good and very funny. Also very accurate. The only part I'd question is the part about there being only one church since the time of Christ, depending on how you define the split with the Orthodox in 1054, though this is a matter that was later resolved for all practical intents and purposes. Thanks for this. It was a real treat.
  • I didn't know that. My gosh. They keep us pretty busy here. For the College kids, we do morning, evening, and night prayer [in addition to our daily meditations], and all theology students are to pray the entire divine office, and many times sing with Vespers with the monks.
  • its y i became a catholic at 58yrs old. a baptist deacon of 20yrs. i came home to rome in 7/30/11. i love the mass and jesus and the mother of god mary.
  • Can't give you the whole story off the top of my head. The peasants heard the monks singing them and asked for them to teach them so they could do it too. Illiteracy was a problem, most couldn't read. So the monks made the chants that ended up becoming the rosary.
  • And not only that [for books considered "uninspired"], but a few that weren't "inspired" were considered to be: the Shepherd of Hermas, the Epistles of Barnabas [both of which are included in the earliest Bibles we possess in Greek and Latin from the mid 4th century], and don't forget that St. Jerome [himself a Catholic theologian] widely held disagreements with the Apocrypha, but only acquiesced when Rome told him to, so no, there isn't a complete consensus at all about what was inspired or not
  • That's right. Luther and King Henry VIII retained Catholic traditions, and many of them do so today. It was John Calvin and the Anabaptist philosophies which flourished in the proceeding centuries, and they've become quite successful. The Catholic Church at that time [1500-1520] was clearly committing abuses, and I'm glad that they were admonished for it. Within time, though, this "Reformation" became doctrinal anarchy within the small span of 50 years. Today, I think Martin Luther would faint.
  • Scripture answers this. "If we remain unfaithful, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself." If you read the details of the Mass, it becomes very clear how God will permit such grace. You must understand that this Unrepentant Catholic is still a Priest (they are priests forever, after the line of Melchizedek), and priests offer atonement for the people (Lev 16). We do the Penitential Rite, the Epiclesis, and many other formats to ensure that the Priests sin won't be an obstacle.
  • That's true. You don't have to avoid the marital bed in Scripture. It's never forbidden, and believe it or not, it's a practice of the CC -- not a dogma. The Pope could change it tonight if he wanted to, but I believe we both think he won't. The CC believes in celibacy for the clergy largely because of 1 Cor 7 in Paul's remarks about virginity, and how we can dedicate ourselves completely to God and His people.
  • Martin Luther denied a number of things [and accepted a lot of things which Protestants don't today]. For instance, he clearly imbibed "Sola Fide" "Predestination" "Sola Scriptura" and a few other doctrines which clearly broke with the Church. He kept a few things, though, with the Catholics: Mary's intercession, the "Hail Mary" [which Lutherans still pray today], the Eucharist, Baptism, etc., So he clearly diverged, but kept a few.
  • The Pope didn't endorse Islam, One. Where did he say, "This is the one, true faith"? He didn't say that, nor did he ever say, "I reject Jesus' divinity." You can read his published manifesto which shows, overwhelmingly, that he did believe and preach Jesus Christ as God and man. So there you go. We have no statements where he endorsed Islam, and we have abundant evidence where he adored and worshipped Christ as God and man. I mean, that would be like me saying, "you're a sinless human being."
  • Luther is always held up to protestants as an example of protestantism. Luther remained a catholic at least in practice. Yes he did try to employ his own understanding while rejecting the pope's authority as 'the vicor of Christ'. I guess Christendom is grateful that he was able to breakaway from the tyranny of the vatican and give men in Europe the ability to have a personal relationship with G_d without prosecution. P.S. Paul's statement in context was also for reasons of being nomadic.
  • That's right. Many Catholic Churches in Brazil, especially. From what I've heard, they have almost Pentecostal-like worship down there. I wouldn't be surprised to find more copying as the years go by. But funny, right? How've you been?
  • Hey, one. I was thinking about you in prayer today (wondering what you're doing, etc.,). Here in Seminary, we're learning to pray the liturgy of the hours. It mostly revolves around singing the psalms as the Jews used to do. It's very peaceful and content here. Mt. Angel Seminary. And, the Pope doesn't support gay marriage. It's in his manifesto. The context was gays who act in "goodwill" not those who continue to act out homosexuality. Besides, it's officially in the Catechism.
  • The problem with that, One, is that there's nowhere a complete consensus until it's closed. Origen writing from 230-250 AD leaves out 2 Peter and Revelation in his list of Scripture. Early in the 4th century, somewhere between 300-325 AD, Eusebius Pamphylus has a list which directly identifies James, Jude, 2 Peter, 2 & 3rd John as disputed books! This means that there were continued disputes into the 4th century among Christians, 300 years after the death of Christ.
  • Hey, One. It's been awhile now. Yes, it's true the WCE claims that there are a number of Catholic denominations (and to my knowledge it was a lot higher, something like 600 as opposed to 143, but maybe I'm mistaken). There aren't a bunch of versions of Catholicism, because only one religion can subscribe to the Catechism, and if one "version" sways here or there, they aren't obeying their religion's official doctrine. I've never seen more than one to be honest with you.
  • If the Church had decided that a Pagan ceremony had been conducted [like a Black Mass or something], then the participants would be exhorted to confess their sins, repent, and perform penance to get themselves back on track, for St. Paul says that bad sins will condemn us [1 Cor 6:9-10 / Eph 5:5 / Gal 5:19-21]
  • 'active' homosexuals was the context of the question the pope was asked. Also he rejected the teachings that active homosexuals can not be saved per the teachings of the RCC. Yes as the head of the RCC he has the responsibility to say that. He may not have 'endorsed' their actions. But that is the typical catholic semantics the modern popes play. By not warning of their fates and not stating the RCC official position he in fact did 'endorse' it. They have NOT aggressive address it.