Was Rose A Good Person? | Steven Universe

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i think Rose was a good gem. but she didn't understand humans enough to be a good person. and you cant really fault her for that. she was raised in a different kind of way and was a good enough person to realize that that way wasn't good for others.

I am personally of the belief that rose BECAME a good character. She gave up everything to defend the earth, for thousands of years, before ultimately giving even her life so that Steven could exist. Him feeling like he was meant to be her, would be the last thing she would want, she wanted more than anything for him to be his own person.

I've always said Rose WASN'T a good person... Because she wasn't a person at all to begin with. She BECAME a good "person" after starting to learn about humans and empathy. The tricky thing about it is that we've seen Rose's growth IN REVERSE. When we first start hearing about her, we hear about how wonderful and nice she was IN HER LASTS DAYS. But as we uncover more and more of her story, we see less and less humanity in her. And since we see that growth in reverse, we're left with the wrong impression that she was in fact a "bad person" after all. I agree that she's a complicated character, but only in the way her story was told. Other than that, she was as bad as Peridot (which we've seen being "bad" and turn into "good" in chronological order)

She's morally grey and I refuse to label her as good or bad, but I think it's valid for those she's hurt to hate her.

I think Pink Diamond was basically a child/teen/yound adult and Rose Quartz was the person who outgrew her initially terrible traits and behaviors. She still wasnt perfect in the end and left behind a mess instead of fixing it herself, but she also could not have known what to do. In the end she was a decent person who had outgrown MOST of her flaws, but that doesnt make the new things learned about her past hurt people any less.

Personally, the take that Rose had Steven so that he could deal with all her problems fundamentally misunderstands the timeline of the show. Rose and the remaining Crystal Gems were on earth for thousands of years after the war, after the Diamonds had sent out the corruption light. From there on out, the Crystal Gems worked to bubble all of the corrupted gems so that they wouldn’t have to live in that state and they would be at peace. They were doing this for THOUSANDS OF YEARS AFTER THE WAR. Then Rose meets Greg, their relationship develops, and she has always been in love with the natural life on this Earth that she wants to create something that will join it. Nobody knew how things would turn out because Steven is the first half-gem half-human, and all of them thought it would be something different. Amethyst thought it was shape shifting, Garnet thought it was fusion, Pearl thought Rose’s gem was trapped inside of Steven’s body. They didn’t understand humans until they had Steven and began raising him, but the point is, until the Red Eye shows up in episode two, there hasn’t been any Homeworld Activity on earth for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. She didn’t leave Steven to deal with her problems because she did not know that they would be coming back to the planet she fought so hard to free from their grasps.

Huh... I didn't realize until now that Spinel's "Drift Away" scene is thematically identical to Jessie's "When She Loved Me" from Toy Story 2. Spinel and Jessie are both living beings perceived as toys that their owners grew out of. No malicious intent, just kids maturing and leaving their childhood interests behind.

It makes me baffled how many people love the diamonds but hate Rose

I really can't blame Rose for deciding to have Steven. By that point Homeworld had stopped being a problem for THOUSANDS of years, no one could have expected them to return during Steven's lifetime, at the most inconvenient time possible.

I don't understand why people expected Pink Diamond to immediately know how to be a good person after literally thousands of years of terrible lessons from the Diamonds and no other role models.

The thing with Pink is that she was basically a child just with immense power until she grew up. It’s a bit like the Collector from The Owl House, and everybody loves them.

I always thought she was a flawed person. In a world where everyone inspired to be perfect, she some how found beauty in flaws. At the very end, regardless of all of her friends and family, she decided to make a selfish and selfless decision to end her own existence and create a new one. She was apart of a ruling class and gave it all up for a planet that wasn't her own to create something she would never know. I also like to consider... we all know that Rose Quart and her 3 crystal gems were quite easily able to dominate earth. But instead of being conquerors of the humans, they allowed the humans to grow with very little interference from them. I think that speaks more than her interpersonal relationships with other gems

The fact that she saw humans as equals by giving herself up to have one showed much love she had for humans as a whole. She abandoned her past and everything she learned to help stop the colonization of a planet. No leader in war can be completely good — people’s lives are at risk and everything is a gamble. With everything Rose was given, I say ofc some things could’ve been handled differently but with how she was raised and how change doesn’t come naturally to gem, she did what she could.

Rose was an abuse victim that did the best she could. Not a bad person. Just flawed and misunderstood.

I'd also like to point out that Pink damaging Pink Pearl was what led to her mellowing out, when she was given Spinel to replace Pink Pearl as a playmate, she left her because she felt as though she'd grown past being someone's playmate.

Another thing to add onto the Spinel story line is that Spinel was always happy, always trying to play and I think Pink was at a time in her life where she wasn't happy, she didn't want to play games. Spinel was making her feel like a child just like how the other diamonds treated her as a child, and if she wanted to move on she felt she had to leave Spinel.

The reverse arc was actually super cool, its just sad that people didnt see it like that. Rose just feels like a real person compared to other gems

I always thought that Rose, much like her gem, was a multifaceted being. She 'grew up' being told she was better than most others around her because of her diamond status, but she was also being treated as lesser by the other diamonds because she didn't fit the mold they expected. She was generally considered 'wrong' and 'childish' by the people considered her 'family,' to where she had to put on an act of acting like the other diamonds just to get even a smidge of respect from them, while hiding that she was a playful and generally childish person. Rose at first was just another way for Pink to push of her 'responsibilities' as a diamond and go have fun exploring the earth, which slowly transformed Rose into being this rebel leader that fought to save earth from being colonized because Pink became so interested in earth and all the life on it. Rose didn't become much of a 'good person' until she met Greg, because Greg was the first one who told her the way she treats him (and probably most other humans) wasn't all that great, and then started to change her way of thinking and treating the people around her.

There's one thing everyone forgets about her relationship with Pearl, and it's that... Pearl never told her she felt jealous or didn't like Rose dating other people. She sings it herself "I was fine, with the men, who would come into her life now and again". She told Rose she was okay with it and Rose took it as the truth. And something people forget about Voleyball, is that it was an accident. Pink had an outburst of her destructive scream that hit Pink Pearl and harmed her in so many ways. Pink started changing after this becoming more reserved and repressing her feelings as much as she could, because she really regretted having hurt Voleyball so much