The GENIUS Of the Carbon Dioxide Battery

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Published 2022-10-13
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For decades all we've heard is how bad carbon dioxide is for the environment and how it causes climate change! True as that might be, what if that very molecule had some very important properties that made it a great medium for energy storage? From villain to hero in the renewable energy story, this is all about the Carbon Dioxide Battery, and how it can be a game changer. Breakthrough Battery Proves We Wrong About Carbon Dioxide!


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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:03 Current Challenges
03:34 CO2 Battery
05:45 Benefits
06:33 Performance
07:58 Costs
09:04 Efficiency
10:58 King of Stationary Storage?
11:58 Where Will We Get CO2?
13:19 Conclusions










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All Comments (21)
  • When I was in graduate school I was doing research on hybrid electric vehicles, specifically the Japanese model of the Prius. At one point during my first year in the PhD program I realized that no one had ever analyzed the radiant energy distributed into the atmosphere as a result of the roads which get quite hot as compared to flora that would normally occupy those spots and had asked my graduate advisor if I could do that on the side. The basic answer was that the only way to get funding was to bite off on the CO2 emissions as the primary driver of climate change and since my hypothesis wasn't associated with that end result, no funding could be provided. So if everyone in the scientific community only gets funding if they internalize the idea of CO2 being the primary driver of climate change then you will never have information to the contrary regardless of if it exists. I dropped out of the PhD program about 6 months later after realizing that even in STEM programs graduate school was a complete waste of time and money.
  • @jirislavicek9954
    Grid battery has to be: 1. Cheap 2. Scalable 3. Reliable Weigh and energy density doesn't matter in stationary batteries. This looks like a great solution.
  • @skjenco
    Great content as usual. I had to laugh when I saw a "Google Context Warning". I had to watch the video again to see if I could find anything deserving of receiving a warning. Anybody who has watched Ricky's video know how circumspect he is in showing new cool upcoming engineering in the area of renewable energy. In other words he provides his own warnings and encourages questioning. It really demonstrates the silliness of these "Google Warnings" as not actual warnings.
  • @markmarsh27
    60 years ago Buckminster Fuller said, "Pollution is just a resource that we haven't learned to use yet."
  • Yes tell that to all of us who run CO 2 generators into our greenhouses to help our plants thrive even better.
  • @Astronomator
    The biggest takeaway for me is that since CO2 doesn't require cryogenic assist to be compressed into a liquefied state, it is much more efficient than compressed air. For utility power plants, I don't think the CO2 battery's low energy density will play much of a factor in deciding whether to use it in comparison to other technologies, though the short vid of the Tesla with a CO2 dome on its roof was a good bit of fun. Thanks for the great video. I see so many videos like "Graphene Eardrum Replacement Surgery Enables Supersonic Hearing", and it turns out to be nothing more than a calculation someone did on the resonant frequency of a piece of graphene the size of an eardrum, and is nowhere even close to becoming reality. That there is a CO2 pilot plant currently operating and a contract to scale up this tech in a real-world application is just wonderful and makes this video so worthwhile. Thanks for covering this.
  • I think you might be missing something: heat transfer during compression and expansion. --The pumps will generate quite a lot of heat when charging (during compression), and will sink a lot of heat (cool the surroundings) when discharging. Pumped hydro or batteries don't have this problem, but compressed air does though probably to a lesser extent because the air doesn't undergo a phase change. The bigger the battery, the bigger the problem. --Have you included components for heat transfer to the external environment? (fans, pumps, etc.) A large unit could either frost up and stop working efficiently or overheat and fail. And if you use an external source of energy for heating the liquid CO2 the efficiency drops. If you expand too much CO2 without heating the storage cells the remainder will solidify. (dry ice) I would expect that the problem will get worse as the battery gets larger. There might be a good solution at small size, but not at industrial size. In other words, will it scale? Time to do some thermodynamic modeling. And finally, CO2 is actually a toxic gas when concentrated. The fatal concentration is about 10%. So leaks are more hazardous than compressed air.
  • @NAUM1
    This sounds awesome. Really hope there isn't something that isn't seen that prevents it from scaling up.
  • Thank you for this little dose of sanity in a world gone mad. This is a genuinely impressive development. I am happy to have found your channel, and shall be making up for whatever I missed previously by binge watching.
  • @pete_pump
    What a cracking episode! A great idea expertly and clearly presented. Thank you.
  • @nibiruresearch
    About thirty years ago I was driving on a very busy highway in Spain. Between the two lanes was an area where beautiful bushes with flowers grew. I then thought, car exhaust pipes can't be that bad for the environment.
  • Good information on this video. I think we could build this in Taranaki, New Zealand, as we already have a process that takes CO2 from the vented gas at the Kapuni Gas Treatment plant.
  • @NickCombs
    Mostly it's just nice to see another option for energy companies that fills the low-budget niche. More good options like this will make it easier for us to find sustainable options in the various conditions around the globe.
  • @TimeSurfer206
    And as it turns out... It might well be both. From startup to prototype AND funding for a full scale op in under 3 years... THAT IS STUNNING.
  • @rmar127
    I can see this working in conjunction with Li Ion batteries. The Li Ion for frequency modulation and rapid short term response and the CO2 battery for medium to long term storage and discharge cycles.
  • This is only the beginning. We're just starting to innovate on battery storage. I can't wait for what comes up next.
  • @ShannonLooper
    I'll keep watching this develop. I expect the efficiency will go up over time as data is collected on production units and the process is refined. Very interesting indeed.
  • @atanacioluna292
    That is exciting; I forgot to consider the liquid cycle for CO2 storage. While watching the video, I imagined using the cycle to transmit energy too. The pipe carrying liquid CO2 would absorb heat along the way, increasing its potential. The gas return pipe would serve as the dome. So elegant! I love it. However, the cost factor for pumped storage needs to be explained; I wonder if it excludes the recreational value and agricultural side-benefits of pumped storage. Further, if (not pumped) storage is from a stream, where water is just held back for flow during electrical demand cycles, the cost and benefits may be even lower. I'm especially concerned with this because Pluvicopia includes such storage as part of its benefits. Pluvinergy produces excess water, so percolation into the water table is one more benefit, to remove water from the oceans and transfer it to land storage for sea level adjustment. (Look at the numbers before you brush this off, I am aware that 1mm of sea level equals 361 km3.)