107. Deep Nutrition w/ Dr Cate Shanahan

Published 2022-03-18
Saifedean hosts Dr Cate Shanahan to discuss her remarkable work on nutrition and the long term consequences of traditional foods and modern fiat foods. Cate's experience at medical school was powerless to stop her own health deteriorating, causing her to look at nutrition as a deeper cause of health problems, sending her down a rabbit hole to discover the horrors of modern seed oils, and the devastating damage caused by mainstream theories of health and nutrition, particularly the work of "the Keynes of Nutrition" Ancel Keys, who has arguably killed more humans than anyone in history. Cate contrasts his work to that of Weston Price, "the Mises of Nutrition", whose study of traditional diets worldwide remains enormously informative and useful, in spite of the medical and nutrition establishment ignoring it. Cate also explains how your food determines the health, fitness, and beauty of your children, and the warped financial incentives of modern fiat medicine.

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0:00 Sponsors
02:20 Podcast Starts Here
04:20 Who is Dr. Cate Shanahan
09:40 Which Books Changed Dr. Shanahan’s Mind?
12:50 Humans Have Always Consumed Animal Fats
14:59 Why Saturated Fats Are Not Bad For Humans
22:00 How The Role Of Seed Oils In The Human Diet Has Been Normalised
26:40 The Problem with Ancel Keys
28:10 Data Manipulation In Research
35:00 Doctor’s vs. Dietitian's Knowledge On Nutrition
41:00 Nature Is Science
43:30 The Nutrition Industry Is Being Influenced By Statisticians
48:00 Weston Price
55:00 The Beauty Of Healthy Humans
01:00:00 Researching Isolated Populations
01:02:46 We Lowered The Bar Of Global Health
01:05:18 The 4 Pillars Of A Healthy Diet
01:09:30 Eating Raw Organs
01:12:15 How Seed Oils Numb Our Taste
01:15:20 How Important Is Meat Consumption?
01:24:00 Eating As A Carnivore
01:28:25 Money In Medicine - No Checks and Balances
01:37:00 Why Doctor’s Don’t Question Nutritioning
01:41:00 Inflation In Science and Medicine
01:44:00 Medical Terrorism Today
01:50:00 Raising Meat Is Easier Than Vegetables
01:58:00 Valuing The Connection To Nature
02:00:00 Is Eating More Protein Healthy?
02:05:00 Wrapping Up

Cate on Twitter:
twitter.com/drcateshanahan

Cate’s books Deep Nutrition, The Fat Burn Fix and Food Rules on her official website:
drcate.com/books/

PhD thesis that influenced Cate’s early ideas on nutrition: Lipid peroxidation in Vivo by Eva Södergren:
swepub.kb.se/bib/swepub:oai:DiVA.org:uu-1250?tab2=…

Book criticised by Cate for manipulation of statistics: The Seven Countries Study: A Scientific Adventure in Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology:
edepot.wur.nl/287595

The Future of Fat Summit:
www.futureoffat.org/

The Weston Price Foundation’s official website:
www.westonaprice.org/

Dentist and beauty theorist Stephen R. Marquardt on Wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_R._Marquardt

Regional Eats documentary series on Amazon:
www.amazon.com/-/es/dp/B084Q71PZ7

Flavorful Origins on Netflix:
www.netflix.com/title/80991060

Weston Price’s book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration:
b-ok.cc/book/5291656/07b15f

The Bitcoin Standard Podcast episode with Dr. Shawn Baker on Meat, Fiat Foods, and Bitcoin:
saifedean.com/podcast/40-dr-shawn-baker-on-meat-fi…

Cate’s lecture “Feed the Masses” about Harvard’s 70-year public health experiment:
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Dr Nadir Ali’s official website:
alicardiology.com/



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All Comments (21)
  • Another amazing podcast! And also The Fiat Standard is finally on Audible ;)
  • @Arx9845
    Dr. Shanahan's sincerity and teaching is absolutely terrific and adorably presented.
  • @SaucinStudio
    Heres a good varierty: Oysters Clams Shrimp Lobsters Crabs Octopus Duck Chicken Goose Turkey Beef Lamb Goat Kefir Saurkraut Milk Eggs Organ meats Stock & Broth Tallow
  • @merrymakia3353
    Dr. Cate,you are my Spirituality and Wellness Pillar❤
  • I read Deep Nutrition in 2018 and the Bitcoin Standard in 2021, excellent to see these two worlds collide!
  • @jimsutton9407
    Thank you Cate and Saifedean. Information that needs to be deliberately widely broadcast. Thanks especially for the comments about statins and seed oils being a recipe for dementia. People need to hear that.
  • @indigo0086
    It seems like as with economics, there seems to be "Austrian Nutrition", where if you understand how your body freely interacts with certain substances, and that they act with a purpose, you can be led down the right path. And if you follow the Keynsian staticians, you end up with seed oils, vegetable fats, and hundred ingredient patent foods
  • @slayerment
    So powerful and true. Resonates with everything I've learned in regards to health and diet in my life.
  • @evvie01
    I definitely crave liver! Saifedean, Thank you for this interview!! Dr Cate Shanahan is really helping me understand how we got into this mess.
  • @CeliaCavalli
    Dr Cate Publix has great grass fed beef options! I’ve also found some farms near Clermont that sell heart etc
  • @wmn8344
    So valuable thanks a lot to you both !!
  • @opaherbert2435
    Simply great! Downloaded a copy of "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" and looked at the pictures, it's mind-boggling. Thanks so much!
  • Hey Saifedean! Many thanks for this episode! I have been looking for a presentation of this book for a really long time. Related to an audience's question/reply: It is true that for ages young people have been pushed away from the farmer business cause it's tough, but it's also true that all over the world, more and more young men and women (who are also YouTubers) are going back to agriculture with different approaches than the "conventional" one, in order to grow their own nutritious food, not due to the income but to their health. More experts are popping up in the emerging field of soil restoration. So this open up other interesting points, as the doctor mentions: weak food production and soil depletion, which are again caused by many of the wrong ideas on which we founded our modern western society, as you were telling. I think this is as important and goes side by side with this, cause in the end it's always about what we eat. If you like to dive into these topics as well, you would find many experts out there. In case you have already made an episode on this, please share in the replies, I'd be glad to watch to it too. Many thanks again