INEOS GRENADIER @4xoverland

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Published 2023-12-17
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I'm fascinated by the over 700 comments in 24 hours since posting. And so many agreeing that the lump in the driver footwell was a deal breaker for them too. It's a major flaw on a vehicle that has huge potential. And while its got several other flaws, I would feel excited and challenged to overcome them. And I think I speak for thousands of prospective buyers; I'll stay away until its fixed. I hear that the lump was in the design from day-1, and the engineers were warned about it wherever they tested it, even with LHD drive cars! (I have my sources) They either ignored the advice, or had no work-around. My guess is, the latter is the truth. Could this decision be the difference between success and faIlure of the Grenadier? I look forward to a Mk2 Grenadier. I just hope it survives to be seen.

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00:00 Introduction
01:39 First impressions
03:03 Steering
07:07 North America and Europe
09:18 Interior
12:44 Off road
21:37 Details
31:42 Optional electrics
35:47 Achilles heel
39:09 Surprise challenge
43:54 More stuff
45:23 Conclusion

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All Comments (21)
  • @Mixos_place
    2 grenadier reviews within one hour. one puff piece from 4x4 mag and then Andrews review.My god Andrew blew it out of the water.
  • @xrstopherpopp120
    David Attenborough of the Aussie 4x4 world is convincing a Landcruiser guy of wanting to buy a Ineos Grenadier! Best car review I think I've seen.
  • @carlredmond3642
    This car will be selling like hot cakes in North America based on this review.... you'd be a fool not to buy it if you were in the market for this type of car. Ineos should be really grateful for this review...the best I've seen.
  • @fifiandmax
    Although there are several things I would like the grenadier to have as stock, I really think the design team need to be congratulated on their 1st series grenadier. I hope they listen to end users for the 2nd series
  • @ohnopiero
    The only review of the Grenadier we have all be waiting for
  • @gerritvr4
    Good review Andrew. Pity you couldn't get used to the footwell. Just a note: those are not the rock sliders. That's the sidesteps. The rock sliders are much higher and tucked in under the car. Nato plug is for a rear winch you can get as an option. Rear bash plate protects the exhaust muffler which we've measured can be replaced with about a 50L fuel tank. Great comments from Heiner too. I did exactly that: added a Lithium with a red arc charger.
  • @glm3781
    Let me just say: this is possibly the best auto review I've ever seen. It's thorough, honest, and it's clear you put a lot of effort into testing it properly. I still plan on getting one, since I live in an LHD country.
  • As someone who gets hip and back pain unless I'm sitting perfectly straight in a vehicle, there's no way I could live with that lump in the floor either. I currently drive and old Isuzu Trooper with captain's chairs and it has one of the best seating positions I've ever experienced in a 4x4, it's one of the main reasons I've kept the vehicle for so long.
  • @roamtheplanet67
    I love how a subscriber stepped up and made INEOS look a bit silly! Good work, Andrew....... and the public wins again!
  • I had almost months two driven the Grenadier - Trial Master LHD Petrol (Middle east - GCC) here are notes: -I can confirm I have no issues with feet space (LHD) -I opted the rocksliders, which looks great with huge clearance, great for sand dunes and protections in mountain area with huge rocks, but not enough space to put your feet on the rockslider so added a step side on it (which I have to fabricate) -On highway, when you cruise control you want to back off and rest your foot it touches the lever seat. -On the Trial Master with KO2 , the speed is incorrect by 4-5 Kmph slow which is approximately 4% correction should be added. -Fuel range is 560 (with the 4% correction) normal driving City/Highway combined. - The Radius turning too wide with KO2 , I have not tried the Bridgestone tires could be better. -Aftermarket wheels choices are limited because its wheels pattern 6x130 though made hubcentric wheels adapters to work with 6x139.7 wheels after market with in consideration of the offset +55 (wheels adapter about 32+ with wheels offset +20 ) total +52 close enough with different tire will work. We are still learning, I have not got all the Grenadier accessories yet, waiting them to arrive. I ticked all the accessories I can can get except the Bulbar and side bars.
  • @adamxsquared
    Those rails in the doors would be great for temporary things like a fold up table or cook stove etc.
  • HI Andrew, the 2 lower 16mm treaded holes in the bottom of the hitch receiver are for our European approved hitches.
  • @easy4x4
    I pointed out this footwell lump as a deal breaker in a video on my much smaller Spanish channel during the prototype car presentation 2 years ago, luckily in Europe 🇪🇺 it's not a problem for drivers, but even so, it's uncomfortable for passengers too! although they've made it smaller. It must be hard to sort, otherwise they would've fixed it by now. Really great review Andrew. 👍You are the most knowledgeable 4x4 reviewer. 🤩 Easy4x4
  • @markgriscti5560
    Hello Andrew, I test drove a Grenadier a few months ago and came to exactly the same conclusion. I could live with the steering but not the foot rest and I do not consider myself as old. Also the one I tested have drive train vibration issues. I have decided to wait until the second version is released hoping the lump is gone and reliability reports around the software improves. Thank you for the balanced review.
  • @Kenyan_Grenadier
    Great review. You echoed everything positive I feel about my vehicle… with the exception of the “lump in the footwell”. I’m coming from a 200 series and what you felt in the Grenadier after hours of driving, I constantly felt in my 200- immense discomfort! Strangely enough, mine was because I didn’t really have anywhere to put my left foot- I simply couldn’t get comfortable with it moving around and nothing to stabilise it. It basically dangled. In my Grenadier that “lump” is my stability- it helps keep my leg in one place and because of that I’m able to drive it for hours on end. I have had no lower back or leg pain. In my cruiser I had to stop and stretch every few hours. I’m at circa 8000km in my Grenadier now and about 80% of that off-road. Regarding the steering- the only complaint or challenge I have is the turning circle. It’s like an 18 wheeler truck! However, regarding the steering “play”… I’ve come to appreciate it when driving on the rocky surfaces we get here in Kenya. I drove hundreds of kilometres from Serengeti to Ngorongoro and then Lake Natron which is basically sand and volcanic rock. That steering gave me the confidence to keep going at a reasonably fast pace. Having said that, I’ve been waiting for your review, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
  • @user-qy6ke9oj6c
    Andrew, appreciate your view but let me add this from an owner with 3k+ km on the clock - I was really worried about the foot bump before delivery, but what I’ve come to realise is that the footrest puts your feet level and your back straight between resting left foot and right root off pedals on cruise control. I’m 6’4” and I was really worried that I’d made a mistake on my order when I first sat in the car. But after lots of driving I find it much better than the asymmetric foot positions of a Disco 4 or 5 that we had before the Grenadier.
  • @jamessunjaya21
    I've nearly done 10000km in my grenadier at the moment and I don't notice the lump any more and I'm 6'3". also you get used to the steering. as a 70 series owner it's like chalk and cheese. both are equally capable off road, but the grenny is so much better on the road. other than the electrical gremlins, I haven't had many issues. very impressed for the first vehicle from ineos in terms of quality and workmanship.
  • Who can do a review like ASPW in these days ? Very very few people. Glad that you kept your channel “ free “ Andrew. So that everyone around the world can benefit from your excellent reviews 👌🏻
  • @EXPEDITIONROVE
    As a Land Rover driver I couldn’t think of a better vehicle to transition too next. After testing a few in SA and Botswana, for me it felt like it retained the character and the things I love about the Defender, but it felt like it was built like a Mercedes. I personally think it’s probably the best stock 4x4 you can buy right now.