DDR#780 - What is the most broken card in MH3?
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Published 2024-06-14
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All Comments (21)
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This wouldn't be a problem if we could cast this card while searching our library
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For those wondering, the card works as intended on arena, as the ui doesn’t actually ask you to choose X, but to pay an amount of energy.
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“Id like to not pay 1000 energy and draw 1000 cards” judge - “yeah checks out”
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"the wheel only has one sure outcome: chaos". Fitting
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I reread this card like a dozen times trying to figure out if I was reading it correctly. Unfortunately I was
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Crazy that they had 3 and a half ways they could have worded this effect functionally and they somehow figured out how to mess it up
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By the way, another new card "Suppression ray" has the exact same wording as this, letting you tap any number of creatures and put stun counters on them for zero energy.
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Getting rid of "you may" was my very first idea and thus gets my vote.
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Dave the Judge with the YT "broken" call outs.
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I love the "suggested donation" line. Good analogy
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I think the "if you do" is the best fix.
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I think the cleanest way to clean up the oracle text is: “You get {E}{E}{E} then you may pay any amount of {E}. Each player may exile their hand and draw X cards, where X is the amount of {E} paid. If X is 7 or more, you may play cards exiled this way until end of turn”
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Getting rid of the "you may" so it just becomes pay X energy, lets you have X be 0 and force you to be able to pay the X. And if readability is an issue, there's space for "(X can be 0)" reminder text
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Stayed for the whole video, because I love seeing the nitty gritty of cards and their interactions, but still loved you put the “twist” at the beginning! Really love your content and can’t wait to see more!
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I think the first, wordiest fix would be the closest to the card's intended behavior, but we should be able to make it less wordy by reintroducing X, albeit a little differently. My propsed errata would be "You get {E}{E}{E}, then you may pay any amount of {E}. Each player may exile their hand and draw X cards, where X is the number of {E} paid this way. If X is 7 or more, you may play cards you own exiled this way until the end of your next turn."
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I read the card, said to myself “I see nothing that would prevent this card from working”, then when you pointed out the issue I immediately saw it. Whoops!
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This could have been solved with another (maybe new) template: Gain 3 energy, then you may pay any amount of energy. Each player may exile their hand, then draw X cards, where X is the amount of energy paid. Etc...
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It took me a while to understand the issue so I'll explain it as best I can. (And please correct me if my understanding is still wrong) You can declare X as any number then choose not to pay it. Then you can still draw X cards because it doesn't check if you paid X. It just checks for what X was.
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Fantastic episode. The clear and formal delivery style really lends itself to the well placed jokes.
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I didn't catch it at first but as you started explaining I paused, read the card a bunch of times, then facepalmed at the unconnected "you may" What an oversight... I hope no issues arise from this
