“We panic over money but spend $84K on travel & shopping”

Published 2024-06-25
Paul, 33, and Maddie, 29, joined us in New York City for a live-recorded episode. She is a high earner, but worries about lifestyle creep. He recently left his job, and they’re treading water on one income.

💡 RAMIT’S PODCAST NEWSLETTER
* I share new ways to think about money every Saturday. Get the emails here: iwt.com/podcastnewsletter-yt

🙌 GET HELP FROM RAMIT SETHI
* Take control of your money with the Conscious Spending Plan: iwt.com/csp-youtube
* Optimize your credit cards with the 1st chapter of my book: iwt.com/chapter1-youtube
* Join my Money Coaching program for monthly help: iwt.com/moneycoaching-youtube
* Listen to my book—now on Audible: amzn.to/48zko28

🤳 CONNECT WITH RAMIT SETHI
* Instagram: www.instagram.com/ramit/
* X: twitter.com/ramit

✅ SUBSCRIBE SO YOU DON’T MISS ANY EPISODES
youtube.com/user/ramitsethi/featured/

THIS EPISODE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY

Fabric by Gerber Life | Protect your family today with Fabric by Gerber Life. Apply today in just 10 minutes at meetfabric.com/ramit.

Facet | Get affordable, accessible financial planning with a flat fee membership. For a limited time, the $250 enrollment fee will be waived when you sign up at facet.com/ramit.

Masterclass | For unlimited access to every class and 15% off an annual membership, go to masterclass.com/ramit.

Rocket Money | Stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to rocketmoney.com/ramit.

LMNT | Right now, LMNT is offering 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order. This is a great way to try all 8 flavors. Get yours at drinklmnt.com/RAMIT.

If you and your partner have a money issue and you want my help, I occasionally select a couple to work with, free of charge. Apply for my help here: iwt.com/apply

Produced by Crate Med

All Comments (21)
  • @ramitsethi
    00:00 Download the Conscious Spending Plan so you can use your money GUILT-FREE: iwt.com/csp-youtube Please remember: These are real people who had the courage to come on my podcast and ask for help. Would you be willing to come on this podcast and share every detail of your financial life? Feel free to leave comments based on what you think, but remember that we are here to help in a supportive way, not to demean and criticize.
  • @JosephRea24
    When you’re rich but your friends are richer so then you try to look as rich as they are and then you feel poor.
  • I can’t relate to these people. On one income alone they are still making almost 20k/ month with 11k net. If you can’t live comfortably on that, it’s not a money problem, it’s a you problem.
  • @LinzyLinz7
    He’s only been unemployed for a month and a half. Unemployment happens. There needs to be a plan for when that happens and how long each partner is comfortable carrying the financial load and how they will scale back as a couple during that time.
  • @ST-wo3uw
    Stop normalizing these insane Instagram lifestyles!! True friends say, "NO, I can't afford it." True friendships and relationships can be enjoyed without having to spend a fortune!
  • Honestly Maddie feels like a series of red flags. She could just work with Paul to cut back on spending for a bit and give him a chance to find a job that doesn’t deteriorate his mental health. They don’t have kids, their fixed costs are reasonable, just dial it back— it should be that easy. Instead she continues to spend and pressured Paul because resources are scarce. I’d run if I were him.
  • Yes he needs a job. But putting his mental wellbeing over the unwillingness to cut back on frivolous spending is WILD.
  • @Danfinitely
    One income isn’t the problem. 263k is literally plenty! This is an example of enough is never enough.
  • @rubired123
    I like the moment where Ramit humbled them and explained that they were living a 600-800k lifestyle. Despite them being high earners, they’re spending too much to keep up with the Joneses (just in a much more lucrative way than the average earner). They’re young and their income will only go up from here. But if they build a great foundation/investment portfolio now, they’ll set themselves up for life.
  • @hannahmoren4161
    I'm 34 eating pancakes for lunch on the floor of my new (rented) (furniture-less) studio apartment. I don't understand these people.
  • @irgggg34
    Very relatable episode. "Be very careful about taking on labour from your partner. It sets a precedent and it has bigger ramifications than most of us think about."
  • @coachisaiahv
    It always amazes me when people don't follow up. A simple "thank you Ramit, you've given me alot to think about and I'm not sure what changes if any I'm going to make but I appreciate your time." There so many other people that could have benefitted from a convo with Ramit that may have been passed up. The least people can do is show appreciation afterwards.
  • This shit is wild and so frustrating. They were just handed money via inheritance, she’s not even 30 and makes over $200k, they have over $600k net worth… and yet they are complaining because they have lots of other rich friends doing extravagant things constantly and they want to be doing the same. Come down to earth for a moment and realize your privilege and luck and how easy you will have it if you just stop living for others and appearances.
  • @ek6007
    She has a scarcity mindset and then massively overspends. What a mess...
  • @NickiBluIs
    I wish they broke down their “guilt free” spending into clearer line items and planned for it in advance. $7000 is a lot of money to spend thoughtlessly. Not to mention there is NO line item for the wedding…
  • @rsp1983
    55:42 He says he doesn't think they "keep up with the Joneses", and she immediately disagrees, he gives up, crosses his arms, and she takes over. He never gets to articulate why he thinks that is. 1:01:37 He says they're going to 8 or 9 weddings, she says "4 are meaningful to [her]", and he immediately gives in. I'm guessing those dropped 4-5 are more for his friends/family than hers. This hits really close to home. I was in a similar situation -- married, joint income close to $500k with multiple millions in investments. Quit my job to relax and find my next thing and suddenly we weren't ok. Couples counseling; regularly prioritized her point of view to keep the peace; divorced 4 months later. Happier now, but it was a long, painful, expensive process. Paul? Run.
  • @HoustonTom
    you need to be cautious when you run in a friend/family group that spend heavily on trips and weddings. The price of admission to that group is also spending. And if you don't keep up with them, you could be pushed to the side. People have to decide what is important to them.